Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON

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Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON
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Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Brendan Jurd <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Matt Kelly <mkellycs@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Vik Fearing <vik@2ndquadrant.fr>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Sridhar N Bamandlapally <sridhar.bn1@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Venkata Balaji N <nag1010@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Venkata Balaji N <nag1010@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rushabh Lathia <rushabh.lathia@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rushabh Lathia <rushabh.lathia@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Rahila Syed <rahilasyed90@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Surprising behaviour of \set AUTOCOMMIT ON Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Tom Lane  wrote:
> Robert Haas  writes:
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Rahila Syed  wrote:
>>> In keeping with current design of hooks instead of rejecting autocommit 'ON'
>>> setting inside
>>> a transaction,the value can be set to 'ON' with a psql_error displaying that
>>> the value
>>> will be effective when the current transaction has ended.
>
>> Hmm, that seems like a reasonable compromise.
>
> I dunno, implementing that seems like it will require some very fragile
> behavior in the autocommit code, ie that even though the variable is "on"
> we don't do anything until after reaching an out-of-transaction state.
> It might work today but I'm afraid we'd break it in future.

Hmm, I don't think any logic change is being proposed, just a warning
that it may not work the way you think.  So I don't think it would be
any more fragile than now.  Am I missing something?

> I think changing the hook API is a pretty reasonable thing to do here
> (though I'd make it its own patch and then add the autocommit change
> on top).  When was the last time you actually wanted to set VERBOSITY
> to "fubar"?

I agree that'd be better but I don't know that we should expect Rahila
to do that as a condition of getting a usability warning accepted.

-- 
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company


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