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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Ants Aasma  wrote:
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Robert Haas  wrote:
>> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Masahiko Sawada  wrote:
>>> Attached draft patch adds SCANALL option to VACUUM in order to scan
>>> all pages forcibly while ignoring visibility map information.
>>> The option name is SCANALL for now but we could change it after got consensus.
>>
>> If we're going to go that way, I'd say it should be scan_all rather
>> than scanall.  Makes it clearer, at least IMHO.
>
> Just to add some diversity to opinions, maybe there should be a
> separate command for performing integrity checks. Currently the best
> ways to actually verify database correctness do so as a side effect.
> The question that I get pretty much every time after I explain why we
> have data checksums, is "how do I check that they are correct" and we
> don't have a nice answer for that now. We could also use some ways to
> sniff out corrupted rows that don't involve crashing the server in a
> loop. Vacuuming pages that supposedly don't need vacuuming just to
> verify integrity seems very much in the same vein.
>
> I know right now isn't exactly the best time to hastily slap on such a
> feature, but I just wanted the thought to be out there for
> consideration.

I think that it's quite reasonable to have ways of performing an
integrity check that are separate from VACUUM, but this is about
having a way to force VACUUM to scan all-frozen pages - and it's hard
to imagine that we want a different command name for that.

-- 
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company


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