Re: New mailing list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-20 08:59:52 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>> > On 06/20/2014 01:12 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> >> On 06/19/2014 11:16 AM, Craig Ringer wrote:
>> >>> Hi folks
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm hoping to apply for a new mailing list hosted on the .org
>> >>> infrastructure, a project list "bdr-users", for the bi-directional
>> >>> replication project.
>> >>
>> >> hmm why would we need a mailinglist for a specific feature, we dont have
>> >> lists for other features either. So what would be "on topic" on that
>> >> list that does not fit others?
>> >
>> > BDR is on track to be a feature in PostgreSQL core - in 9.5 or 9.6 - and
>> > parts have been merged already.
>> >
>> > However, the patch is ready for real world use now, and requires only
>> > very minimal changes to 9.4 - sufficiently so that it'll shortly have a
>> > script to just convert a 9.4 datadir for use with the BDR patch, or vice
>> > versa.
>> >
>> > Given the level of user interest I've been seeing I'd like to have
>> > somewhere for users to communicate about it, discuss it, report issues,
>> > etc, so that we have a much more solid feature for merging into 9.5 and
>> > 9.6. I'm aware of people who intend to put this into production, not
>> > just test with it, so there'll be more than just some chat about it on
>> > -hackers.
>>
>> We've traditionally shied away from having per-feature mailing lists
>> as they end up fragmenting discussion, and typically most of the
>> interested parties are on both lists anyway. In a (very) recent
>> discussion on -core on the topic of having feature lists, it was very
>> clear that it is not something the majority of us want to do.
>
> But it's not really a 'per feature' mailing list. BDR is a PGDG licenced
> extension (including some patches to postgres) that allows to do logical
> replication, including multimaster, today. Using 9.4. I doubt an
> eventual in-core facility will have the same UI, so BDR will continue to
> live for a while independently anyway.

That seems to be somewhat at odds with Craig's justification - at
least as I read it - where he seems to be saying that the purpose of
the list is to refine the design for inclusion in 9.5/9.6.

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