Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold

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Tom Lane
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Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold
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9709.1246987935@sss.pgh.pa.us
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*_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold - example schema Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold marcin mank <marcin.mank@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Jan Urbański <wulczer@wulczer.org>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Joshua Tolley <eggyknap@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Robert Haas  writes:
> One possibility would be to remove join_collapse_limit entirely, but
> that would eliminate one possibily-useful piece of functionality that
> it current enables: namely, the ability to exactly specify the join
> order by setting join_collapse_limit to 1.  So one possibility would
> be to rename the variable something like explicit_join_order and make
> it a Boolean; another possibility would be to change the default value
> to INT_MAX.

As the person who put in those thresholds, I kind of prefer going over
to the boolean definition.  That was the alternative that we considered;
the numeric thresholds were used instead because they were easy to
implement and seemed to possibly offer more control.  But I'm not
convinced that anyone has really used them profitably.  I agree that
the ability to use JOIN syntax to specify the join order exactly (with
join_collapse_limit=1) is the only really solid use-case anyone has
proposed for either threshold.  I'm interested in Andreas' comment that
he has use-cases where using the collapse_limit is better than allowing
geqo to take over for very large problems ... but I think we need to see
those use-cases and see if there's a better fix.
		regards, tom lane

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