Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold
От
Tom Lane
Тема
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold
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Msg-id
9709.1246987935@sss.pgh.pa.us
Ответ на
*_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold (Robert Haas)
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*_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold - example schema Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold marcin mank <marcin.mank@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Jan Urbański <wulczer@wulczer.org>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Joshua Tolley <eggyknap@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@gmail.com>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Robert Haas writes: > One possibility would be to remove join_collapse_limit entirely, but > that would eliminate one possibily-useful piece of functionality that > it current enables: namely, the ability to exactly specify the join > order by setting join_collapse_limit to 1. So one possibility would > be to rename the variable something like explicit_join_order and make > it a Boolean; another possibility would be to change the default value > to INT_MAX. As the person who put in those thresholds, I kind of prefer going over to the boolean definition. That was the alternative that we considered; the numeric thresholds were used instead because they were easy to implement and seemed to possibly offer more control. But I'm not convinced that anyone has really used them profitably. I agree that the ability to use JOIN syntax to specify the join order exactly (with join_collapse_limit=1) is the only really solid use-case anyone has proposed for either threshold. I'm interested in Andreas' comment that he has use-cases where using the collapse_limit is better than allowing geqo to take over for very large problems ... but I think we need to see those use-cases and see if there's a better fix. regards, tom lane
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