Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals
| От | Tomas Vondra |
|---|---|
| Тема | Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals |
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| Msg-id | 55F3F56C.4000604@2ndquadrant.com обсуждение исходный текст |
| Ответ на | Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals ("Shulgin, Oleksandr" <oleksandr.shulgin@zalando.de>) |
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Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals
Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals |
| Список | pgsql-hackers |
Hi,
I did a quick initial review of this patch today, so here are my
comments so far:
- ipcs.c should include utils/cmdstatus.h (the compiler complains about implicit declaration of two functions)
- Attempts to get plan for simple insert queries like this
INSERT INTO x SELECT * FROM x;
end with a segfault, because ActivePortal->queryDesc is 0x0 for this query. Needs investigation.
- The lockless approach seems fine to me, although I think the fear of performance issues is a bit moot (I don't think
weexpect large number of processes calling pg_cmdstatus at the same time). But it's not significantly more complex,
sowhy not.
- The patch contains pretty much no documentation, both comments at the code level and user docs. The lack of user
docsis not that a big deal at this point (although the patch seems to be mature enough, although the user-level API
willlikely change).
The lack of code comments is more serious, as it makes the review somewhat more difficult. For example it'd be very
niceto document the contract for the lock-less interface.
- I agree that pg_cmdstatus() is not the best API. Having something like EXPLAIN PID would be nice, but it does not
reallywork for all the request types (just CMD_STATUS_REQUEST_EXPLAIN). Maybe there's not a single API for all cases,
i.e.we should use EXPLAIN PID for one case and invent something different for the other?
- Is there a particular reason why we allocate slots for auxiliary processes and not just for backends (NumBackends)?
Dowe expect those auxiliary processes to ever use this API?
- CleanupCmdStatusSlot seems needlessly complicated. I don't quite see the need for the second argument, or the
internalslot variable. Why not to simply use the MyCmdStatusSlot directly?
- I also don't quite understand why we need to track css_pid for the slot? In what scenario will this actually
matter?
- While being able to get EXPLAIN from the running process is nice, I'm especially interested in getting EXPLAIN
ANALYZEto get insight into the progress of the execution. The are other ways to get the EXPLAIN, e.g. by opening a
differentconnection and actually running it (sure, the plan might have changed since then), but currently there's no
wayto get insight into the progress.
From the thread I get the impression that Oleksandr also finds this useful - correct? What are the plans in this
direction?
ISTM we need at least two things for that to work:
(a) Ability to enable instrumentation on all queries (effectively what auto_explain allows), otherwise we can't
getEXPLAIN ANALYZE on the queries later. But auto_explain is an extension, so that does not seem as a good
matchif this is supposed to be in core. In that case a separate GUC seems appropriate.
(b) Being able to run the InstrEnd* methods repeatedly - the initial message in this thread mentions issues with
InstrEndLoopfor example. So perhaps this is non-trivial.
- And finally, I think we should really support all existing EXPLAIN formats, not just text. We need to support the
otherformats (yaml, json, xml) if we want to use the EXPLAIN PID approach, and it also makes the plans easier to
processby additional tools.
regards
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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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