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Jim Nasby
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
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Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
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Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Petr Jelinek <petr@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
On 4/23/15 2:42 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 04/22/2015 09:24 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> Yeah.  We have a serious need to reduce the size of our on-disk
>> format.  On a TPC-C-like workload Jan Wieck recently tested, our data
>> set was 34% larger than another database at the beginning of the test,
>> and 80% larger by the end of the test.  And we did twice the disk
>> writes.  See "The Elephants in the Room.pdf" at
>> https://sites.google.com/site/robertmhaas/presentations
>
> Meh. Adding an 8-byte header to every 8k block would add 0.1% to the
> disk size. No doubt it would be nice to reduce our disk footprint, but
> the page header is not the elephant in the room.

I've often wondered if there was some way we could consolidate XMIN/XMAX 
from multiple tuples at the page level; that could be a big win for OLAP 
environments where most of your tuples belong to a pretty small range of 
XIDs. In many workloads you could have 80%+ of the tuples in a table 
having a single inserting XID.

Dunno how much it would help for OLTP though... :/
-- 
Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting
Data in Trouble? Get it in Treble! http://BlueTreble.com


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