On 22/11/12 04:56, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 21.11.2012 17:42, Gavin Flower wrote:
On 22/11/12 04:32, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2012-11-21 10:21:16 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
I wasn't talking about removing it. My point was that if the
optimization
fence around CTEs is removed a lot of people will need to rework apps
where
they have used them for that purpose. And I continue to think that
spelling
it "OFFSET 0" is horribly obscure.
+1
FWIW, I'm happy with "OFFSET 0". Granted, it's pretty obscure, but that's what we've historically recommended, and it's pretty ugly to have to specify a fence like that in the first place. Whenever you have to resort to it, you ought have a comment in the query explaining why you need to force the planner like that, anyway.
WITH foo AS (SELECT ...) (barrier=on|off)?
9.3 introduces the syntax, defaulting to on
9.4 switches the default to off.
WITH foo AS (SELECT ...) (fence=on|off)?
WITH foo AS (SELECT ...) (optimisation_fence=on|off)?
If we are to invent a new syntax for this, can we please come up with something that's more widely applicable than just the WITH syntax. Something that you could use to replace OFFSET 0 in a subquery, too.
- Heikki
WITH FENCE foo AS (SELECT ...)
default?
WITHOUT FENCE foo AS (SELECT ...) :-)
Nah!
I prefer this, but it is too specific to 'WITH',
and very unSQL standardish!
Alternatively one of the following
- WITH UNFENCED foo AS (SELECT ...)
- WITH NO FENCE foo AS (SELECT ...)
- WITH NOT FENCE foo AS (SELECT ...)
I loke the firsat variant, but the 3rd is
most SQL standardish!
Cheers,
Gavin