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Heikki Linnakangas
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Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables
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A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Karl Schnaitter <karlsch@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Karl Schnaitter <karlsch@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Karl Schnaitter <karlsch@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Karl Schnaitter <karlsch@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Karl Schnaitter <karlsch@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Takahiro Itagaki <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Takahiro Itagaki <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Takahiro Itagaki <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Csaba Nagy <ncslists@googlemail.com>
Re: A thought on Index Organized Tables Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Gokulakannan Somasundaram wrote:
> a) The current WAL architecture makes sure that the WAL Log is written
> before the actual page flush( i believe ). But you are changing that
> architecture  for Visibility maps. Visibility map might get flushed out
> before the corresponding WAL gets written.

Yes. When a bit is cleared, that's OK, because a cleared bit just means
"you need to check visibility in the heap tuple". When a bit is set,
however, it's important that it doesn't hit the disk before the
corresponding heap page update. That's why visibilitymap_set() sets the
LSN on the page.

> b) Say for a large table, you have multiple buffers of visibility map, then
> there is a chance that one buffer gets flushed to the disk and the other
> doesn't. If the WAL records are not in place, then this leads to a time
> inconsistent visibility map.

Huh?

> c) If you are going to track all the WAL linked with a buffer of visibility
> map, then you need to introduce another synchronization in the critical
> path.

Double huh?

I'd suggest that you take some time to read the code and comments in
visibilitymap.c and the call sites of those functions, to get a better
picture of how it works.

--  Heikki Linnakangas EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com

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