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Emmanuel Cecchet
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Re: COPY enhancements
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COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Alexander Sennhauser <alex@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Pierre Frédéric Caillaud<lists@peufeu.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Selena Deckelmann <selenamarie@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: COPY enhancements "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: COPY enhancements Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Hot Standby and 64+ subxids (was COPY enhancements) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hot Standby and 64+ subxids (was COPY enhancements) Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Hot Standby and 64+ subxids (was COPY enhancements) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Gokulakannan Somasundaram <gokul007@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: COPY enhancements "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Rod Taylor <rod.taylor@gmail.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: COPY enhancements Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas  writes:
>   
>> Or look at your CVS/git checkout.
>>     
>
> The important point is to look at the grammar, which doesn't have any
> idea what the specific options are in the list.  (Well, okay, it had
> to have special cases for ANALYZE and VERBOSE because those are reserved
> words :-(.  But future additions will not need to touch the grammar.
> In the case of COPY that also means not having to touch psql \copy.)
>   
I understand the convenience from a developer perspective but I wonder 
how this improves the user experience. If options are not explicitly 
part of the grammar:
- you cannot do automated testing based on the grammar
- it seems that it will be harder to document
- it still requires the same amount of work in psql and 3rd party tools 
to support command-completion and so on?
- why only COPY or EXPLAIN would use that syntax? what is the good limit 
between an option and something that is part of the grammar?

It looks like passing the current GUC variables as options to COPY. 
Isn't there a design problem with the parser if it is so hard to add a 
new option to a command?  In all cases, both the client and the server 
will have to support the new extension (and it will have to be 
documented) so it should not make a big difference whether it is 
explicitly part of the command grammar or a set of generic options.

manu

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Emmanuel Cecchet
Aster Data Systems
Web: http://www.asterdata.com


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