Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

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От Andrew Dunstan
Тема Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again
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Ответ на Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again  (Stuart Bishop <stuart@stuartbishop.net>)
Ответы Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again  (Stuart Bishop <stuart@stuartbishop.net>)
Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again  (Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
Re: Time-based Releases WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again  (Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>)
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Stuart Bishop wrote:
> Canonical (my employer) certainly believe in time based releases, and
> that is one of the major reasons for the growth of Ubuntu and the
> Ubuntu Community. We now use time based releases for almost all our
> sponsored projects (some 6 monthly, some monthly), and are lobbying
> various projects and other OS distributions to get into some sort of
> cadence with releases so everyone benefits. It makes us happier
> (especially when we are choosing what we can commit to providing
> security updates for the 5 year releases), and our users happier, and
> I think you happier with less support issues.
>
>   

The release cycle is quite independent of the release lifetime.

In any case, I don't accept this analogy. The mechanics of a Linux 
distribution are very different from the mechanics of a project like 
PostgreSQL. The prominent OSS project that seems to me most like ours is 
the Apache HTTP project. But they don't do timed releases AFAIK, and 
theirs is arguably the most successful OSS project ever.

I'm especially resistant to suggestions that we should in some way 
coordinate our releases with other projects' timings. Getting our own 
developers organized is sufficiently like herding cats that I have no 
confidence that anyone will successfully organize those of a plethora of 
projects.

I am not saying timed releases are necessarily bad. But many of the 
arguments that have been put forward to support them don't seem to me to 
withstand critical analysis.

I would argue that it would be an major setback for us if we made 
another release without having Hot Standby or whatever we are calling it 
now. I would much rather slip one month or three than ship without it.

cheers

andrew


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