Re: Code of Conduct plan
От | Adrian Klaver |
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Тема | Re: Code of Conduct plan |
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Msg-id | 480e0d91-f130-2459-b5da-6da3e2d54533@aklaver.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Code of Conduct plan (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>) |
Список | pgsql-general |
On 9/14/18 11:13 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote: >> That wording has been in the published draft for 18 months, and noone >> objected to it that I'm aware of. There will always be people who don't like >> some of the wording, much as there are often people who disagree with the >> way a patch to the code is written. Sooner or later though, the general >> consensus prevails and we have to move on, otherwise nothing will ever get >> completed. > > It's not clear to me that there IS a general consensus here. It looks > to me like the unelected core team got together and decided to impose > a vaguely-worded code of conduct on a vaguely-defined group of people > covering not only their work on PostgreSQL but also their entire life. > It is not difficult to imagine that someone's private life might > include "behavior that may bring the PostgreSQL project into > disrepute." > > However, I also don't think it matters very much. The Code of Conduct > Committee is going to consist of small number of people -- at least > four, perhaps a few more. But there are hundreds of people involved > on the PostgreSQL mailing lists, maybe thousands. If the Code of > Conduct Committee, or the core team, believes that it can impose on a > very large group of people, all of whom are volunteers, some set of > rules with which they don't agree, it's probably going to find out > pretty quickly that it is mistaken. If people from that large group > get banned for behavior which is perceived by other members of that > large group to be legitimate, then there will be a ferocious backlash. > Nobody wants to see people who are willing to contribute driven away > from the project, and anyone we drive away without a really good > reason will find some other project that welcomes their participation. > So the only thing that the Code of Conduct Committee is likely to be > able to do in practice is admonish people to be nicer (which is > probably a good thing) and punish really egregious conduct, especially > when committed by people who aren't involved enough that their absence > will be keenly felt. > > In practice, therefore, democracy is going to win out. That's both > good and bad. It's good because nobody wants a CoC witch-hunt, and > it's bad because there's probably some behavior which legitimately > deserves censure and will escape it. > +1 -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
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