Re: Bouncing replies

PostgreSQL list serve output has not been connecting from mail.postgresql.org for a LONG time (see the headers
below). Currently they've been connecting from various hosts at the hub.org domain, but there have several other
non-postgresql.orgconnecting domains in the past.  Whenever I stop getting PostgreSQL mail, I go check my Postfix logs
tosee what the new hostname's domain is, and update my whitelist.<br /><br /> While mail may originally come from a
postgresql.orghost, as I'm sure you know, the only information that a receiving SMTP server can trust is the connecting
IPaddress and the hostname from a DNS reverse IP lookup.  Everything else can be falsified.  That's why virtually all
SMTP-levelspam filtering (including all DNS blacklist lookups) is based on the connecting IP address.<br /><br /> --
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nowrapvalign="baseline">From: </th><td>Dave Page <***></td></tr><tr><th align="right" nowrap
valign="baseline">To:</th><td>Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) <***></td></tr><tr><th align="right" nowrap
valign="baseline">Subject:</th><td>Re: [SQL] Bouncing replies</td></tr><tr><th align="right" nowrap
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align="right"nowrap valign="baseline">X-Keywords: </th><td><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><br /><pre>On Feb 11,
20085:06 AM, Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) wrote:
 
> If mail to my list address doesn't come from one of your list
> servers (and those seems to change much more often than any other list I
> belong to), it gets rejected.

Those must be some *really* long-lived lists. Our mailserver has been
mail.postgresql.org for probably 7 or 8 years now. Many moons ago we
did use some additional relay servers, but I don't think we've done
that for 5+ years.

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