Re: rapid degradation after postmaster restart

Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
> I think you understand correctly.  A table with 1,000,000 rows should
> get vacuumed approx every 2,000,000 changes (assuming default values for
> -V ).  FYI and insert and a delete count as one change, but and update
> counts as two.
>
> Unfortunately, the running with -d2 would show the numbers that
> pg_autovacuum is using to decide if it when it should vacuum or
> analyze.    Also, are you sure that it vacuumed more than once and
> wasn't doing analyzes most of the time?

Yeah, I'm sure. Snippets from the log:

[...lots-o-tables...]
[2004-03-14 12:44:48 PM] added table: specdb."public"."parametric_states"
[2004-03-14 12:49:48 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 01:29:59 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 02:08:26 PM] Performing: ANALYZE "public"."out_of_spec"
[2004-03-14 02:08:26 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 02:22:44 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."spc_graphs"
[2004-03-14 03:06:45 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."out_of_spec"
[2004-03-14 03:06:45 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 03:19:51 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."spc_graphs"
[2004-03-14 03:21:09 PM] Performing: ANALYZE "public"."parametric_states"
[2004-03-14 03:54:57 PM] Performing: ANALYZE "public"."out_of_spec"
[2004-03-14 03:54:57 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 04:07:52 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."spc_graphs"
[2004-03-14 04:09:33 PM] Performing: ANALYZE "public"."equip_status_history"
[2004-03-14 04:09:33 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."parametric_states"
[2004-03-14 04:43:46 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."out_of_spec"
[2004-03-14 04:43:46 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE
"public"."transaction_data"
[2004-03-14 04:56:35 PM] Performing: VACUUM ANALYZE "public"."spc_graphs"
[2004-03-14 04:58:32 PM] Performing: ANALYZE "public"."parametric_states"
[2004-03-14 05:28:58 PM] added database: specdb

This is the entire period of the first test, with default autovac
settings. The table "public"."transaction_data" is the one with 28
million active rows. The entire test run inserts about 600 x 600 =
360,000 rows, out of which roughly two-thirds are later deleted.

> That's unfortunate as that is the detail we need to see what
> pg_autovacuum thinks is really going on.  We had a similar sounding
> crash on FreeBSD due to some unitialized variables that were being
> printed out by the debug code, however that was fixed a long time ago.
> Any chance you can look into this?

I can try. The server belongs to another department, and they are under
the gun to get back on track with their testing. Also, they compiled
without debug symbols, so I need to get permission to recompile.

> Yes I would be very curious to see the results with the vacuum delay
> patch installed (is that patch applied to HEAD?)

Any idea where I can get my hands on the latest version. I found the
original post from Tom, but I thought there was a later version with
both number of pages and time to sleep as knobs.

Thanks,

Joe