Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE

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Nathan Bossart
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Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE
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predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Pavel Luzanov <p.luzanov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Pavel Luzanov <p.luzanov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker <ilmari@ilmari.org>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 11:24:18AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 11:11 AM Stephen Frost  wrote:
>> If we were to make the specific bits depend on the object type as I'm
>> suggesting, then we'd have 8 bits used for relations (10 with the vacuum
>> and analyze bits), leaving us with 6 remaining inside the existing
>> uint32, or more bits available than we've ever used since the original
>> implementation from what I can tell, or at least 15+ years.  That seems
>> like pretty darn good future-proofing without a lot of complication or
>> any change in physical size.  We would also be able to get rid of the
>> question of "well, is it more valuable to add the ability to GRANT
>> TRUNCATE on a relation, or GRANT CONNECT on databases" or other rather
>> odd debates between ultimately very different things.
> 
> I mostly agree with this. I don't think it's entirely clear how we
> should try to get more bits going forward, but it's clear that we
> cannot just forever hold our breath and refuse to find any more bits.
> And of the possible ways of doing it, this seems like the one with the
> lowest impact, so I think it likely makes sense to do this one first.

+1.  My earlier note wasn't intended to suggest that one approach was
better than the other, merely that there are a couple of options to choose
from once we run out of bits.  I don't think this work needs to be tied to
the VACUUM/ANALYZE stuff, but I am interested in it and hope to take it on
at some point.

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Nathan Bossart
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