Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view?
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Bruce Momjian
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Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view?
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20201006132229.GB3686@momjian.us
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Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Yun Li <liyunjuanyong@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Yun Li <liyunjuanyong@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Jim Finnerty <jfinnert@amazon.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Evgeny Efimkin <efimkin@yandex-team.ru>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Evgeny Efimkin <efimkin@yandex-team.ru>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tatsuro Yamada <tatsuro.yamada.tf@nttcom.co.jp>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Atsushi Torikoshi <atorik@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? torikoshia <torikoshia@oss.nttdata.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tatsuro Yamada <tatsuro.yamada.tf@nttcom.co.jp>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Tatsuro Yamada <tatsuro.yamada.tf@nttcom.co.jp>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@free.fr>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
RE: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
RE: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? legrand legrand <legrand_legrand@hotmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId forpg_catalog.pg_stat_activity view? Maksim Milyutin <milyutinma@gmail.com>
Re: Feature improvement: can we add queryId for pg_catalog.pg_stat_activityview? Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 02:34:58PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 11:23:50PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 11:11:27AM +0800, Julien Rouhaud wrote: > >> Maybe we could add a new hook for only queryid computation, and add a > >> GUC to let people choose between no queryid computed, core computation > >> (current pg_stat_statement) and 3rd party plugin? > > > > That all seems very complicated. If we go in that direction, I suggest > > we just give up getting any of this into core. > > A GUC would have at least the advantage to make the computation > consistent for any system willing to consume it, with the option to > not pay any potential performance impact, though I have to admit that > just moving the query ID computation of PGSS into core may not be the > best option as a query ID of 0 means the same thing for a utility, for > an initialization, and for a backend running a query with an unknown > value, but that could be worked out. > > FWIW, I think that adding the system ID in the hash is too > restrictive, as it could be interesting for users to do stat > comparisons across multiple systems running the same major version. > It would be better to not give any strong guarantee that the query ID > computed will remain consistent across major versions so as it is > possible to keep improving it. Also, if nothing has been done that > changes the hashing computation, I see little benefit in forcing a > breakage by adding something like PG_MAJORVERSION_NUM or such in the > hash computation. I thought some more about this. First, I think having the queryid hash code in the server, without requiring pg_stat_statements, is a requirement --- I think too many people will want to use this feature independent of pg_stat_statements. Second, I understand the desire to have different hash computation methods, depending on what level of detail/matching you want. I propose moving the pg_stat_statements queryid hash code into the server (with a version number), and also adding a postgressql.conf variable that lets you control how detailed the queryid hash is computed. This addresses the problem of people wanting different hash methods. When computing a hash, the queryid detail level and version number will be mixed into the hash, so only a hash that used a similar query and identical queryid detail level would match. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee
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