Re: PG12 autovac issues

Hi,

On 2020-03-19 18:07:14 -0500, Justin King wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2020-03-19 10:23:48 -0500, Justin King wrote:
> > > > From a single stats snapshot we can't actually understand the actual xid
> > > > consumption - is it actually the xid usage that triggers the vacuums?
> > >
> > > We have looked at this and the xid consumption averages around 1250
> > > xid/sec -- this is when we see the "aggressive" autovac kick off in
> > > the logs.  What I don't understand is why these xid's are being
> > > consumed at this rate on the databases with no activity (postgres,
> > > template1).
> >
> > The xid counter is global across all databases.
> 
> Then what does the "age" value represent for each database in this
> case?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what I'm looking at?
> 
> postgres=#  SELECT datname, age(datfrozenxid),
> current_setting('autovacuum_freeze_max_age') FROM pg_database;
>   datname  |    age    | current_setting
> -----------+-----------+-----------------
>  postgres  | 100937449 | 200000000
>  template1 |  50244438 | 200000000
>  template0 | 160207297 | 200000000
>  feedi     | 150147602 | 200000000

Look at datfrozenxid without the age(). age(xid) computes how "old" xid
is compared to the "next" xid to be assigned. Until vacuum comes around
and performs work, pg_database.datfrozenxid / pg_class.relfrozenxid are
constant, since they represent the values actually present in the
table.  But if xids are being consumed, their "age" increases, because
they're further and further in the past relative to the "newest" xids.


> > One big difference between a manual VACUUM and autovacuum is that with
> > the default settings VACUUM is not throttled, but autovacuum is.
> >
> > What are your vacuum_cost_delay, autovacuum_vacuum_cost_delay,
> > vacuum_cost_limit, autovacuum_vacuum_cost_limit, vacuum_cost_page_hit,
> > vacuum_cost_page_miss set to?
> 
> Here are all the vacuum related values for the server:
> 
> postgres=# select name,setting from pg_settings where name like '%vacuum%';
> autovacuum = on
> autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor = 0.1
> autovacuum_analyze_threshold = 2500
> autovacuum_freeze_max_age = 200000000
> autovacuum_max_workers = 8
> autovacuum_multixact_freeze_max_age = 400000000
> autovacuum_naptime = 15
> autovacuum_vacuum_cost_delay = 20
> autovacuum_vacuum_cost_limit = -1
> autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor = 0.2
> autovacuum_vacuum_threshold = 500
> autovacuum_work_mem = -1
> log_autovacuum_min_duration = 0
> vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor = 0.1
> vacuum_cost_delay = 0
> vacuum_cost_limit = 1000
> vacuum_cost_page_dirty = 20
> vacuum_cost_page_hit = 1
> vacuum_cost_page_miss = 10
> vacuum_defer_cleanup_age = 0
> vacuum_freeze_min_age = 50000000
> vacuum_freeze_table_age = 150000000
> vacuum_multixact_freeze_min_age = 5000000
> vacuum_multixact_freeze_table_age = 150000000
> 
> I know the database is busy, so the throttling makes sense, but it
> seems like it would complete eventually.

The cost limit/delay are way too long/small respectively for a busy
postgres instance.


> We see blocked autovacs for many hours.

On the same table, or just generally being busy?

Greetings,

Andres Freund