Re: PG 12 draft release notes

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От Bruce Momjian
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Msg-id 20190613022934.efqk5m7b5rdzi7q4@momjian.us
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Ответ на Re: PG 12 draft release notes  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Ответы Re: PG 12 draft release notes  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 06:34:27PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> > I was wrong.  I was thinking of this commit:
> >
> >     commit d2086b08b0
> >     Author: Alexander Korotkov <akorotkov@postgresql.org>
> >     Date:   Sat Jul 28 00:31:40 2018 +0300
> >
> >     Reduce path length for locking leaf B-tree pages during insertion
> 
> > > If you had to cut one thing from this list, then I would suggest that
> > > it be this item. It's nice, but it's also very obvious, which makes it
> > > hard to explain.
> 
> > Right.  The commit mentioned a 4.5x speedup in a rare benchmark, so I
> > added it lower on the list.
> 
> My remark about cutting an item referred to a lesser item that I
> worked on (the 'Add nbtree high key "continuescan" optimization'
> commit), not Alexander independent B-Tree work. I think that
> Alexander's optimization is also quite effective. Though FWIW the 4.5x
> improvement concerned a case involving lots of duplicates...cases with
> a lot of duplicates will be far far better in Postgres 12. (I never
> tested my patch without Alexander's commit, since it went in early in
> the v12 cycle.)

OK, good to know.

> > Attached is an updated patch.  I might have missed something, but I
> > think it might be close.
> 
> This looks great. I do have a few things:
> 
> * I would put "Improve performance and space utilization of btree
> indexes with many duplicates" first (before "Allow multi-column btree
> indexes to be smaller"). I think that this is far more common than we
> tend to assume, and is also where the biggest benefits are.

OK, done, I was wondering about that.

> * The wording of the "many duplicates" item itself is almost perfect,
> though the "...and inefficiency when VACUUM needed to find a row for
> removal" part seems a bit off -- this is really about the
> effectiveness of VACUUM, not the speed at which the VACUUM completes
> (it's a bit faster, but that's not that important). Perhaps that part
> should read: "...and often failed to efficiently recycle space made
> available by VACUUM". Something like that.

Ah, I see what you mean --- recycle entire pages.  I have updated the
patch.

> * The "Allow multi-column btree indexes to be smaller" item is about
> both suffix truncation, and about the "Split after new tuple"
> optimization. I think that that makes it more complicated than it
> needs to be. While the improvements that we saw with TPC-C on account
> of the "Split after new tuple" optimization were nice, I doubt that
> users will be looking out for it. I would be okay if you dropped any
> mention of the "Split after new tuple" optimization, in the interest
> of making the description more useful to users. We can just lose that.

OK, done.

> * Once you simplify the item by making it all about suffix truncation,
> it would make sense to change the single line summary to "Reduce the
> number of branch blocks needed for multi-column indexes". Then go on
> to talk about how we now only store those columns that are necessary
> to guide index scans in tuples stored in branch pages (we tend to call
> branch pages internal pages, but branch pages seems friendlier to me).
> Note that the user docs of other database systems reference these
> details, even in their introductory material on how B-Tree indexes
> work. The term "suffix truncation" isn't something users have heard
> of, and we shouldn't use it here, but the *idea* of suffix truncation
> is very well established. As I mentioned, it matters for things like
> covering indexes (indexes that are designed to be used by index-only
> scans, which are not necessarily INCLUDE indexes).

OK, I mentioned something about increased locality now.  Patch attached.

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