Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums

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Michael Paquier
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Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums
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20181221232834.GB1948@paquier.xyz
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Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Bernd Helmle <mailings@oopsware.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Michael Banck <michael.banck@credativ.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Bernd Helmle <mailings@oopsware.de>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 09:16:16PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> It adds an (now mandatory) --action parameter that takes either verify,
> enable or disable as argument.

There are two discussion points which deserve attention here:
1) Do we want to rename pg_verify_checksums to something else, like
pg_checksums.  I like a lot if we would do a simple renaming of the
tool, which should be the first step taken. 
2) Which kind of interface do we want to use?  When I did my own
flavor of pg_checksums, I used an --action switch able to use the
following values:
- enable
- disable
- verify
The switch cannot be specified twice (perhaps we could enforce the
last value as other binaries do in the tree, not sure if that's
adapted here).  A second type of interface is to use one switch per
action.  For both interfaces if no action is specify then the tool
fails.  Vote is open.  

> This is basically meant as a stop-gap measure in case online activation
> of checksums won't make it for v12, but maybe it is independently
> useful?

I think that this is independently useful, I got this stuff part of an
upgrade workflow where the user is ready to accept some extra one-time
offline time so as checksums are enabled.

> Things I have not done so far:
> 
> 1. Rename pg_verify_checksums to e.g. pg_checksums as it will no longer
> only verify checksums.

Check.  That sounds right to me.

> 2. Rename the scan_* functions (Michael renamed them to operate_file and
> operate_directory but I am not sure it is worth it.

The renaming makes sense, as scan implies only reading while enabling
checksums causes a write.

> 3. Once that patch is in, there would be a way to disable checksums so
> there'd be a case to also change the initdb default to enabled, but that
> required further discussion (and maybe another round of benchmarks).

Perhaps, that's unrelated to this thread though.  I am not sure that
all users would be ready to pay the extra cost of checksums enabled by
default.
--
Michael
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