Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions

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Andres Freund
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Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions
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20170204001125.lnyft5qqk2up4act@alap3.anarazel.de
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Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Nikhil Sontakke <nikhils@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Petr Jelinek <petr.jelinek@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Nikhil Sontakke <nikhils@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Arseny Sher <a.sher@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Arseny Sher <a.sher@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Nikhil Sontakke <nikhils@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Arseny Sher <a.sher@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
RE: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions "osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com" <osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
RE: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions "osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com" <osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
RE: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions "osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com" <osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] logical decoding of two-phase transactions Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>
On 2017-02-03 19:09:43 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Andres Freund  wrote:
> > On 2017-02-03 18:47:23 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Andres Freund  wrote:
> >> > I still haven't seen a credible model for being able to apply a stream
> >> > of interleaved transactions that can roll back individually; I think we
> >> > really need the ability to have multiple transactions alive in one
> >> > backend for that.
> >>
> >> Hmm, yeah, that's a problem.  That smells like autonomous transactions.
> >
> > Unfortunately the last few proposals, like spawning backends, to deal
> > with autonomous xacts aren't really suitable for replication, unless you
> > only have very large ones.  And it really needs to be an implementation
> > where ATs can freely be switched inbetween.  On the other hand, a good
> > deal of problems (like locking) shouldn't be an issue, since there's
> > obviously a possible execution schedule.
> >
> > I suspect this'd need some low-level implemention close to xact.c that'd
> > allow switching between transactions.
> 
> Yeah.  Well, I still feel like that's also how autonomous transactions
> oughta work, but I realize that's not a unanimous viewpoint.  :-)

Same here ;)


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