Re: [HACKERS] Floating point comparison inconsistencies of thegeometric types

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От Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
Тема Re: [HACKERS] Floating point comparison inconsistencies of thegeometric types
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Msg-id 20170111.145114.196298110.horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp
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Ответ на Re: Floating point comparison inconsistencies of the geometric types  (Emre Hasegeli <emre@hasegeli.com>)
Ответы Re: [HACKERS] Floating point comparison inconsistencies of thegeometric types  (Emre Hasegeli <emre@hasegeli.com>)
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Hello, 

At Fri, 18 Nov 2016 10:58:27 +0100, Emre Hasegeli <emre@hasegeli.com> wrote in
<CAE2gYzxVxKNS7qU74UdHVZTmfXQjxMbFiXH5+16XFy90SRAbXA@mail.gmail.com>
> > To keep such kind of integrity, we should deeply consider about
> > errors.
> 
> My point is that I don't think we can keep integrity together with the
> fuzzy behaviour, or at least I don't have the skills to do that.  I
> can just leave the more complicated operators like "is a
> point on a line" as it is, and only change the basic ones.  Do you
> think a smaller patch like this would be acceptable?

The size of the patch is not a problem. I regret that I haven't
made your requirement clear. So as the startpoint of the new
discussion, I briefly summarize the current implement of
geometric comparisons.

- Floating point comparisons for gemetric types
 Comparison related to geometric types is performed by FPeq macro and similars defined in geo_decls.h. This intends to
givetolerance to the comparisons.
 
                A FPeq:     |<=e-|-e=>|    (<= means inclusive, e = epsilon = tolerance) FPne:   ->|  e | e  |<-  (<-
meansexclusive) FPlt:          | e  |<-   FPle:     |<=e | FPgt:   ->|  e | FPge:          | e=>|
 
 These seems reasonable ignoring the tolerance amount issue.


- Consistency between index and non-index scans.
GIST supports geometric types.
=# create table tpnt1(id int, p point);=# insert into tpnt1 (select i + 200, point(i*1.0e-6 / 100.0, i * 1.0e-6 /
100.0)from generate_series(-200, 200) as i);=# create index on tpnt1 using gist (p);=# set enable_seqscan to false;=#
setenable_bitmapscan to true;=# select count(*) from tpnt1 where p ~= point(0, 0);   201=# select count(*) from tpnt1
wherep << point(0, 0);   100=# set enable_seqscan to true;=# set enable_bitmapscan to false;=# select count(*) from
tpnt1where p ~= point(0, 0);   201=# select count(*) from tpnt1 where p << point(0, 0);   100
 

At least for the point type, (bitmap) index scan is consistent
with sequential scan.  I remember that the issue was
"inconsistency between indexed and non-indexed scans over
geometric types" but they seem consistent with each other.

You mentioned b-tree, which don't have predefined opclass for
geometric types. So the "inconsistency" may be mentioning the
difference between geometric values and combinations of plain
(first-class) values. But the two are different things and
apparently using different operators (~= and = for equality) so
the issue is not fit for this. More specifically, "p ~= p0" and
"x = x0 and y = y0" are completely different.


Could you let me (or any other guys on this ml) have more precise
description on the problem and/or what you want to do with this
patch?

regards,
-- 
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center





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