Re: Relation extension scalability

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От Andres Freund
Тема Re: Relation extension scalability
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Msg-id 20160202160011.GW8743@awork2.anarazel.de
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Ответ на Re: Relation extension scalability  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On 2016-02-02 10:12:38 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> Here's a sketch of another approach to this problem.  Get rid of the
> relation extension lock.  Instead, have an array of, say, 256 lwlocks.
> Each one protects the extension of relations where hash(relfilenode) %
> 256 maps to that lock.  To extend a relation, grab the corresponding
> lwlock, do the work, then release the lwlock.  You might occasionally
> have a situation where two relations are both being extended very
> quickly and happen to map to the same bucket, but that shouldn't be
> much of a problem in practice, and the way we're doing it presently is
> worse, not better, since two relation extension locks may very easily
> map to the same lock manager partition.

I guess you suspect that the performance problems come from the
heavyweight lock overhead? That's not what I *think* I've seen in
profiles, but it's hard to conclusively judge that.

I kinda doubt that really solves the problem, profiles aside,
though. The above wouldn't really get rid of the extension locks, it
just changes the implementation a bit. We'd still do victim buffer
search, and filesystem operations, while holding an exclusive
lock. Batching can solve some of that, but I think primarily we need
more granular locking, or get rid of locks entirely.


> The only problem with this is that acquiring an LWLock holds off
> interrupts, and we don't want interrupts to be locked out across a
> potentially lengthy I/O.  We could partially fix that if we call
> RESUME_INTERRUPTS() after acquiring the lock and HOLD_INTERRUPTS()
> just before releasing it, but there's still the problem that you might
> block non-interruptibly while somebody else has the lock.  I don't see
> an easy solution to that problem right off-hand, but if something like
> this performs well we can probably conjure up some solution to that
> problem.

Hm. I think to get rid of the HOLD_INTERRUPTS() we'd have to to record
what lock we were waiting on, and in which mode, before going into
PGSemaphoreLock(). Then LWLockReleaseAll() could "hand off" the wakeup
to the next waiter in the queue. Without that we'd sometimes end up with
absorbing a wakeup without then releasing the lock, causing everyone to
block on a released lock.

There's probably two major questions around that: Will it have a
performance impact, and will there be any impact on existing callers?

Regards,

Andres



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