Re: Asynchronous execution on FDW

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От Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
Тема Re: Asynchronous execution on FDW
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Msg-id 20150722.161017.153211073.horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp
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Ответ на Re: Asynchronous execution on FDW  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
Ответы Re: Asynchronous execution on FDW  (Kouhei Kaigai <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>)
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Hello, thank you for the comment.

At Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:34:53 -0400, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote in
<CA+TgmoaiJK1svzw_GkFU+zsSxciJKFELqu2AOMVUPhpSFw4BsQ@mail.gmail.com>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> wrote:
> > At a quick glance, I think this has all the same problems as starting the
> > execution at ExecInit phase. The correct way to do this is to kick off the
> > queries in the first IterateForeignScan() call. You said that "ExecProc
> > phase does not fit" - why not?
> 
> What exactly are those problems?
> 
> I can think of these:
> 
> 1. If the scan is parametrized, we probably can't do it for lack of
> knowledge of what they will be.  This seems easy; just don't do it in
> that case.

We can put an early kick to foreign scans only for the first shot
if we do it outside (before) ExecProc phase.

Nestloop
-> SeqScan
-> Append  -> Foreign (Index) Scan  -> Foreign (Index) Scan  ..

This plan premises precise (even to some extent) estimate for
remote query but async execution within ExecProc phase would be
in effect for this case.


> 2. It's possible that we're down inside some subtree of the plan that
> won't actually get executed.  This is trickier.

As for current postgres_fdw, it is done simply abandoning queued
result then close the cursor.

> Consider this:
> 
> Append
> -> Foreign Scan
> -> Foreign Scan
> -> Foreign Scan
> <repeat 17 more times>
> 
> If we don't start each foreign scan until the first tuple is fetched,
> we will not get any benefit here, because we won't fetch the first
> tuple from query #2 until we finish reading the results of query #1.
> If the result of the Append node will be needed in its entirety, we
> really, really want to launch of those queries as early as possible.
> OTOH, if there's a Limit node with a small limit on top of the Append
> node, that could be quite wasteful.

It's the nature of speculative execution, but the Limit will be
pushed down onto every Foreign Scans near future.

> We could decide not to care: after all, if our limit is
> satisfied, we can just bang the remote connections shut, and if
> they wasted some CPU, well, tough luck for them.  But it would
> be nice to be smarter.  I'm not sure how, though.

Appropriate fetch size will cap the harm and the case will be
handled as I mentioned above as for postgres_fdw.

regards,

-- 
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center



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