Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?)

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Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?)
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Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Removing SSL renegotiation (Was: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes?) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Should we back-patch SSL renegotiation fixes? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
On 2015-06-24 11:11:16 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> On balance I think I agree that SSL renegotiation has not been worth the
> trouble.  And we definitely aren't testing it adequately, so if we wanted
> to keep it then there's even *more* work that somebody ought to expend.

Right. Our code was nearly entirely broken for streaming replication for
*years* without anybody noticing. And even now it doesn't reliably
work. It's also pretty hard to test due to the required data volumes and
the vast number of different behaviours across openssl versions.

> I assume we'd back-patch it, too?  (Probably not remove the
> ssl_renegotiation_limit variable, but always act as though it were
> zero.)

Yes, I think so. Maybe log a warning at startup if set to nonzero
(startup is probably the best we can do).

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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