Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch
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Bruce Momjian
Тема
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch
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Msg-id
20150320023852.GB6317@momjian.us
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Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch (Bruce Momjian)
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get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:20:45PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 06:15:03PM +0200, Marko Tiikkaja wrote: > > On 10/18/14, 5:46 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > >Marko Tiikkaja writes: > > >>Yes, exactly; if I had had the option to disable the index from the > > >>optimizer's point of view, I'd have seen that it's not used for looking > > >>up any data by any queries, and thus I would have known that I can > > >>safely drop it without slowing down queries. Which was the only thing I > > >>cared about, and where the stats we provide failed me. > > > > > >This argument is *utterly* wrongheaded, because it assumes that the > > >planner's use of the index provided no benefit to your queries. If the > > >planner was touching the index at all then it was planning queries in > > >which knowledge of the extremal value was relevant to accurate selectivity > > >estimation. So it's quite likely that without the index you'd have gotten > > >different and inferior plans, whether or not those plans actually chose to > > >use the index. > > > > Maybe. But at the same time that's a big problem: there's no way of > > knowing whether the index is actually useful or not when it's used > > only by the query planner. > > That is a good point. Without an index, the executor is going to do a > sequential scan, while a missing index to the optimizer just means worse > statistics. I have applied the attached patch to document that the optimizer can increase the index usage statistics. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + Everyone has their own god. +
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