Re: MD5 authentication needs help

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: MD5 authentication needs help
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MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Albe Laurenz <laurenz.albe@wien.gv.at>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: MD5 authentication needs help Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
On Wed, Mar  4, 2015 at 01:27:32PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> This further makes what is sent over the network not directly
> susceptible to a replay attack because the server has multiple values
> available to pick for the salt to use and sends one at random to the
> client, exactly how our current challenge/response replay-prevention
> system works.  The downside is that the number of possible values for
> the server to send to prevent replay attacke is reduced from 2^32 to N.

OK, I understand now --- by not using a random session salt, you can
store a post-hash of what you receive from the client, preventing the
pg_authid from being resent by a client.  Nice trick, though going from
2^32 to N randomness doesn't seem like a win.

--  Bruce Momjian          http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB                             http://enterprisedb.com
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