Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE}

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Andres Freund
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Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE}
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INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Marti Raudsepp <marti@juffo.org>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Marti Raudsepp <marti@juffo.org>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT {UPDATE | IGNORE} Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
On 2014-09-30 14:51:57 -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Josh Berkus  wrote:
> > On 09/30/2014 02:39 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> >> Josh Berkus  wrote:
> >>> On 09/30/2014 07:15 AM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At the risk of pushing people away from this POV, I'll point out
> >>>> that this is somewhat similar to what we do for unlogged bulk loads
> >>>> -- if all the conditions for doing it the fast way are present, we
> >>>> do it the fast way; otherwise it still works, but slower.
> >>>
> >>> Except that switching between fast/slow bulk loads affects *only* the
> >>> speed of loading, not the locking rules.  Having a statement silently
> >>> take a full table lock when we were expecting it to be concurrent
> >>> (because, for example, the index got rebuilt and someone forgot the
> >>> UNIQUE) violates POLA from my perspective.
> >>
> >> I would not think that an approach which took a full table lock to
> >> implement the more general case would be accepted.
> >
> > Why not?  There are certainly cases ... like bulk loading ... where
> > users would find it completely acceptable.  Imagine that you're merging
> > 3 files into a single unlogged table before processing them into
> > finished data.
> 
> So the expectation is that when we implement MERGE it will, by
> default, take out an EXCLUSIVE lock for the entire target table for
> the entire duration of the command?  I would have expected a bit
> more finesse.

I think it'd be acceptable. Alternatively we'll just accept that you can
get uniqueness violations under concurrency. I many cases that'll be
fine.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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