Re: VACUUM ANALYZE is faster than ANALYZE?

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От ktm@rice.edu
Тема Re: VACUUM ANALYZE is faster than ANALYZE?
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Msg-id 20120222153551.GN21114@aart.rice.edu
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Ответ на Re: VACUUM ANALYZE is faster than ANALYZE?  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:29:56AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com> writes:
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I had to reply to query about usage VACUUM ANALYZE or ANALYZE. I
> >> expected so ANALYZE should be faster then VACUUM ANALYZE.
> 
> > VACUUM ANALYZE scans the whole table sequentially.
> 
> > ANALYZE accesses a random sample of data blocks. Random access is
> > slower than sequential access, so at some threshold of sample size and
> > sequential/random I/O speed ratio ANALYZE could become slower.
> 
> That analysis is entirely wrong.  In the first place, although ANALYZE
> doesn't read all the blocks, what it does read it reads in block number
> order.  So it's not like there are "random" seeks all over the disk that
> would not need to happen anyway.  In the second place, VACUUM ANALYZE
> consists of two separate passes, VACUUM and then ANALYZE, and the second
> pass is going to be "random" I/O by your definition no matter what.
> 
> If the filesystem is hugely biased towards sequential I/O for some
> reason, and the VACUUM scan causes the whole table to become resident in
> RAM where ANALYZE can read it "for free", then I guess it might be
> possible to arrive at Pavel's result.  But it would be an awfully narrow
> corner case.  I cannot believe that his statement is true in general,
> or even for a noticeably large fraction of cases.
> 
>             regards, tom lane
> 

Wouldn't a full sequential scan trigger the kernel read-ahead, which
might not trigger for the analyze block reads, even though they are
in order? That could account for the observation.

Regards,
Ken


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