Re: Spoofing as the postmaster

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Peter Eisentraut
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Re: Spoofing as the postmaster
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200712231435.03010.peter_e@gmx.net
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Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Mike Rylander" <mrylander@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Marko Kreen" <markokr@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Brendan Jurd" <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Decibel! <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Naz Gassiep <naz@mira.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Gurjeet Singh" <singh.gurjeet@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Brendan Jurd" <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > Most kinds of server processes where you'd send sensitive information do
> > support SSL.  Most of these server processes don't run over Unix-domain
> > sockets, though.
>
> Well, the question is not about sensitive information, is it? It's about
>  password disclosure due to spoofing.

I included passwords as sensitive information.

> Which would affect *all* services 
> that accept passwords over any kind of local connections - both unix
> sockets and TCP localhost.

These services either use a protected port or a protected directory, or they 
support SSL or something similar (SSH), or they are deprecated, as many 
traditional Unix services are.  If you find a service that is not covered by 
this, then yes, you have a problem.

> The best way to avoid it is of course not to give untrusted users access
> to launch arbitrary processes on your server. Something about that
> should perhaps be added to that new docs section?

That is pretty impractical.  PostgreSQL is designed to run on multiuser 
operating systems, so it should do it correctly.  Such suggestions do not 
raise confidence.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

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