Re: Maia Mailgard down?
От | Bruce Momjian |
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Тема | Re: Maia Mailgard down? |
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Msg-id | 200608090259.k792x6X15739@momjian.us обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Maia Mailgard down? ("Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>) |
Список | pgsql-www |
OK, I set it up to forward, but not discard from my mailbox, and I will use that for training. Good idea. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Because all my momjian@postgresql.org email is forwarded to > > bruce@momjian.us, I don't have any way of training the spam filter. Is > > there a way I can use a global one? > > MAIA is *before* your mailbox, so, before the filtering ... the mail > system essentially goes: > > smtpd -> greylist -> maia -> mailbox -> local store > or > -> forward > > so, you can still train the system, just login, go to Settings and set > your appropriate settings so that it Quarantines stuff, and then train > away ... > > The nice thing about the system is that it doesn't just train/report to > the Bayes database, but it reports it to Razor2, Spamcop and Pyzor as > well, but, it does it in the background ... the interface just allows you > to confirm an email as spam, and a cron job then runs to actually do the > appropriate processing of the email(s) ... > > any non-spam that you 'release' is, of course, released instantly back > into the system ... > > there are a few things planned for v1.0.2 that will be nice ... like the > ability to just auto-discard anything that scores over X (if someone sends > me an email taht scores over, say, 20, chances are it isn't something I > want to read or ever really see) ... > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> Is there any way we can return to whatever we were using before Maia > >>> mailgard? Maia is patently NOT working ... it's fundamentally broken in > >>> some way, and isn't blocking any spam. The interface for Baysian > >>> filtering is also awkward and darned near unusable. In a couple months > >>> we're going to be trying to do the PostgreSQL 8.2 release which means > >>> that we need the @postgresql.org e-mail addresses working ... and right > >>> now they're all receiving a flood of unfiltered spam, making them > >>> unusable. > >> > >> Actually, all MAIA is is a front-end over what we were using before > >> (amavisd + spamassassin) to allow individual mailboxes to configure > >> themselves, instead of one big site-wide setting ... I'm getting a > >> *trickle* of spam right now, but I've spent the past week or so going > >> through and training the Bayesian database ... in fact, under the old > >> system, those 46 messages that are currently quarantined in your cache > >> would have been delivered, instead of quarantined ... in the > >> @postgresql.org one that I monitor, there are >7k messages currently in > >> spam-quarantine that normally would have been passed through to the system > >> ... > >> > >> Not sure what you are finding awkward about the interface, but if you go > >> in and just turn on all the various checks, but *disable* the > >> quarantining, so that it just label's and passing everything over to you > >> to filter, you will have exactly the same thing in place that was there > >> before we added the interface for per-user settings ... > >> > >> Please note ... at *no time* did we ever reject spam for any mailbox, > >> except those for the mailing lists themselves, which majordomo is setup to > >> do ... so if you are seeing more now then before, its because we are being > >> hit with more now that are passing through spamassassin ... > >> > >> Note that unlike the ~60 messages in the cache for your mailbox right now > >> (12 unconfirmed non-spam, 46 unconfirmed spam), the stuff that I go > >> through is right now sitting at ~10k, and I generally spend about a half > >> hour in the evening going through it ... I generally care about > >> unconfirmed-spam between 5 and 10, ignoring most above that ... and > >> unconfirmed non-spam between 0 and 5 ... > >> > >> ---- > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > >> > >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > >> TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend > > > > -- > > Bruce Momjian bruce@momjian.us > > EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com > > > > + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + > > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -- Bruce Momjian bruce@momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
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