Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples

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Josh Berkus
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Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples
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200509021335.43256.josh@agliodbs.com
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Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Additional background daemon (was: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples) "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Pailloncy Jean-Gerard <jg@rilk.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg@aon.at>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg@aon.at>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
People:

> Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > Considering the cost/benefits, rather than doing some optimization for
> > long-lived tuples, I would like to see us merge the existing
> > xmin/xmax/cmin/cmax values back into three storage fields like we had
> > in 7.4 and had to expand to a full four in 8.0 to support
> > subtransactions.

Hmmm.   I personally don't see a whole lot of value in trimming 4 bytes per 
row off an archive table, particularly if the table would need to go 
through some kind of I/O intensive operation to do it.

Where I do see value is in enabling index-only access for "frozen" tables.  
That would be a *huge* gain, especially with bitmaps.   I think we've 
discussed this before,though.

-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

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