Fwd: Bug#253295: postgresql: VACUUM FULL produce warnings

Hi PostgreSQL developers!

Recently we got the following bug report about VACUUM FULL. Can
anybody comment on this?

If you have questions concerning the submitter's configuration, can
you please ask him directly? (ed@divo.ru)

Thanks in advance and have a nice day!

Martin

----- Forwarded message from Ed <ed@divo.ru> -----

Subject: Bug#253295: postgresql: VACUUM FULL produce warnings
Reply-To: Ed <ed@divo.ru>, 253295@bugs.debian.org
From: Ed <ed@divo.ru>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:19:13 +0400
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3D0.0 required=3D4.0 tests=3Dnone autolearn=3Dno ve=
rsion=3D2.61

Package: postgresql
Version: 7.4.2-3.backports.org.1
Severity: normal

i have small postgesql database with my own clients (C+libpq). database upd=
ate are rare (several tens per day), transactions common (one or two every =
second)


if i run "VACUUM FULL" in psql i get several messages like this:

WARNING:  index "pg_depend_depender_index" contains 3722 row versions, but =
table contains 3720 row versions

if i do REINDEX DATABASE before VACUUM i don't see any warnings.

it's normal behaviour? or i must look for problem source?

----- End forwarded message -----
----- Forwarded message from Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk> -----

Subject: Bug#253295: postgresql: VACUUM FULL produce warnings
Reply-To: olly@lfix.co.uk, 253295@bugs.debian.org
From: Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk>
To: Ed <ed@divo.ru>, 253295@bugs.debian.org
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:03:03 +0100
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3D0.0 required=3D4.0 tests=3Dnone autolearn=3Dno ve=
rsion=3D2.61

On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 14:19, Ed wrote:
> Package: postgresql
> Version: 7.4.2-3.backports.org.1
> Severity: normal
>=20
> i have small postgesql database with my own clients (C+libpq). database u=
pdate are rare (several tens per day), transactions common (one or two ever=
y second)
>=20
>=20
> if i run "VACUUM FULL" in psql i get several messages like this:
>=20
> WARNING:  index "pg_depend_depender_index" contains 3722 row versions, bu=
t table contains 3720 row versions
>=20
> if i do REINDEX DATABASE before VACUUM i don't see any warnings.
>=20
> it's normal behaviour? or i must look for problem source?

I wouldn't consider it normal.  Reindexing will remove the problem, of
course.  The question is how the problem arose in the first place (that
is, more row versions in the index than in the table itself).

Do all transactions terminate before you run VACUUM FULL?

Is it the case that this problem keeps recurring?

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Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
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     "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with
      God through our Lord Jesus Christ."       Romans 5:1=20



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----- Forwarded message from ed@divo.ru -----

Subject: Bug#253295: Re[2]: Bug#253295: postgresql: VACUUM FULL produce
    warnings
Reply-To: ed@divo.ru, 253295@bugs.debian.org
From: ed@divo.ru
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:10:25 +0400
To: Oliver Elphick <olly@lfix.co.uk>
Cc: 253295@bugs.debian.org
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3D0.2 required=3D4.0 tests=3DNO_REAL_NAME,
    SUBJ_BRACKET_BALANCED,SUBJ_BRACKET_OFF,SUBJ_BRACKET_ON autolearn=3Dno=20
    version=3D2.61

OE> Do all transactions terminate before you run VACUUM FULL?

No. but i think it's not problem source:
 - afaik VACUUM FULL must lock tables and can't start before
 write-transactions done
 - if i see this messages once - i get its every time VACUUM FULL
 running, until i execute REINDEX DATABASE

OE> Is it the case that this problem keeps recurring?

i can't say when problem appear, but i see it every day on working
database.

what may be problem source? how can i find it?


 - i found now AUTOVACUUM=3Dyes in postmaster.conf, but
 postgesql-contrib don't installed
 - postgresql work over xfs filesystem on linux 2.6



----- End forwarded message -----

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Martin Pitt                 Debian GNU/Linux Developer
martin@piware.de                      mpitt@debian.org
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