Re: Pre-allocation of shared memory ...

OK, doc patch attached and applied.  Improvements?

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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > What really kills [:-)] me is that they allocate memory assuming I will
> > not be using it all, then terminate the executable in an unrecoverable
> > way when I go to use the memory.
>
> To be fair, I'm probably misstating things by referring to malloc().
> The big problem probably comes from fork() with copy-on-write --- the
> kernel has no good way to estimate how much of the shared address space
> will eventually become private modified copies, but it can be forgiven
> for wanting to make less than the worst-case assumption.
>
> Still, if you are wanting to run a reliable server, I think worst-case
> assumption is exactly what you want.  Swap space is cheap, and there's
> no reason you shouldn't have enough swap to support the worst-case
> situation.  If the swap area goes largely unused, that's fine.
>
> The policy they're calling "paranoid overcommit" (don't allocate more
> virtual memory than you have swap) is as far as I know the standard on
> all Unixen other than Linux; certainly it's the traditional behavior.
>
>             regards, tom lane
>

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          <filename>/usr/src/linux/include/asm-<replaceable>xxx</>/shmpara
          m.h</> and <filename>/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sem.h</>.
         </para>
+
+        <para>
+         Linux has poor default memory overcommit behavior.  Rather than
+         failing if it can not reserve enough memory, it returns success,
+         but later fails when the memory can't be mapped and terminates
+         the application.  To prevent unpredictable process termination, use:
+ <programlisting>
+ sysctl -w vm.overcommit_memory=3
+ </programlisting>
+        </para>
        </listitem>
       </varlistentry>