Re: OID wraparound (was Re: pg_depend)

From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Subject: OID wraparound (was Re: [HACKERS] pg_depend)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:52:45 -0400
Message-ID: <6335.995478765@sss.pgh.pa.us>

> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > Yikes, I am not sure we are ready to make oids optional.
> 
> We've discussed it enough, it's time to do it.  I have an ulterior plan
> here: I want 7.2 not to have any limitations that prevent it from being
> used in a true 24x7, up-forever scenario.  VACUUM lockouts are fixed
> now, or nearly.

What about pg_log? It will easily become a huge file. Currently the
only solution is re-installing whole database, that is apparently
unacceptable for very big installation like 1TB.

> The other stumbling blocks for continuous runs are OID
> wraparound and XID wraparound.  We've got unique indexes on OIDs for all
> system catalogs that need them (we were short a couple as of 7.1, btw),
> but OID wrap is still likely to lead to unwanted "duplicate key"
> failures.  So we still need a way to reduce the system's appetite for
> OIDs.  In a configuration where OIDs are used only where *necessary*,
> it'd be a long time till wrap.  I also intend to do something about XID
> wrap next month...

So are we going to remove OID? I see following in the SQL99 draft (not
sure it actually becomes a part of the SQL99 standard, though). Can we
implement the "Object identifier" without the current oid mechanism?

---------------------------------------------------------------------        4.10  Object identifier
        An object identifier OID is a value generated when an object is        created, to give that object an
immutableidentity. It is unique in        the known universe of objects that are instances of abstract data
types,and is conceptually separate from the value, or state, of        the instance.
 
        The object identifier type is described by an object identifier        type descriptor. An object identifier
typedescriptor contains:
 
        -  an indication that this is an object identifier type; and
        -  the name of the abstract data type within which the object           identifier type is used.
        The object identifier type is only used to define the OID pseudo-        column implicitly defined in object
ADTswithin an ADT definition.
 
        ___________________________________________________________________
        An OID literal exists for an object identifier type only if the        associated abstract data type was
definedWITH OID VISIBLE. The OID        value is materialized as a character string with an implementation-
definedlength and character set SQL_TEXT.
 

---------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Will we have cheap 64-bit oids by the time oid wraparound becomes an
>> issue?
>
>No, we won't, because OID wrap is an issue already for any long-uptime
>installation.  (64-bit XIDs are not a real practical answer either,
>btw.)

What's wrong with 64-bit oids (except extra 4bytes)?
--
Tatsuo Ishii