Re: Performance monitor signal handler

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От Jan Wieck
Тема Re: Performance monitor signal handler
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Msg-id 200103171433.JAA09677@jupiter.jw.home
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Ответ на Re: Performance monitor signal handler  (Philip Warner <pjw@rhyme.com.au>)
Ответы Re: Performance monitor signal handler  (Samuel Sieb <samuel@sieb.net>)
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Philip Warner wrote:
> At 13:49 16/03/01 -0500, Jan Wieck wrote:
> >
> >    Similar problem as with shared  memory  -  size.  If  a  long
> >    running  backend  of  a multithousand table database needs to
> >    send access stats per table - and had accessed them all up to
> >    now - it'll be alot of wasted bandwidth.
>
> Not if you only send totals for individual counters when they change; some
> stats may never be resynced, but for the most part it will work. Also, does
> Unix allow interrupts to occur as a result of data arrivibg in a pipe? If
> so, how about:
>
> - All backends to do *blocking* IO to collector.
   The  general  problem  remains.  We  only  have  one  central   collector with a limited receive capacity.  The more
load is   on  the  machine,  the  smaller it's capacity gets.  The more   complex the DB schemas get  and  the  more
load is  on  the   system,  the  more interesting accurate statistics get.  Both   factors are contraproductive. More
complexschema means  more   tables  and  thus  bigger  messages.  More  load  means  more   messages.  Having good
statisticson a toy system while  they   get  worse  for  a  web  backend  server  that's really under   pressure is
braindeadfrom the start.
 
   We don't want the backends to block,  so  that  they  can  do   THEIR work. That's to process queries, nothing
else.
   Pipes  seem  to  be  inappropriate  because  their  buffer is   limited to 4K on Linux and most BSD flavours.
Message queues   are too because they are limited to 2K on most BSD's. So only   sockets remain.
 
   If we have multiple processes that try to  receive  from  the   UDP  socket,  condense  the  received  packets  into
summary   messages and send them to the central collector,  this  might   solve the problem.
 


Jan

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