Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon

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I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
RE: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com" <tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
RE: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon MauMau <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon MauMau <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
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Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: I'd like to discuss scaleout at PGCon "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
From: Simon Riggs
On 1 June 2018 at 16:56, Ashutosh Bapat
 wrote:
>> I think partitioning + FDW provide basic infrastructure for
>> distributing data, planning queries working with such data. We need
>> more glue to support node management, cluster configuration. So, I
>> agree with your statement. But I think it was clear from the
beginning
>> that we need more than FDW and partitioning.
>
> No, it wasn't clear. But I'm glad to hear it. It might actually work
then.

I found a possibly interesting description in the XL manual.  Although
XL performs various pushdowns like FDW, XL seems to perform some kind
of joins with datanode-to-datanode communication.  Doesn't this prove
that the FDW approach can't handle those joins optimally?  What kind
of joins use the shared queue?



https://www.postgres-xl.org/documentation/pg-xc-specifics.html
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shared_queues (integer)
Datanode Only

For some joins that occur in queries, data from one Datanode may need
to be joined with data from another Datanode. Postgres-XL uses shared
queues for this purpose. During execution each Datanode knows if it
needs to produce or consume tuples, or both.

Note that there may be mulitple shared_queues used even for a single
query. So a value should be set taking into account the number of
connections it can accept and expected number of such joins occurring
simultaneously.
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Regards
MauMau


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