Re: leaky views, yet again

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Joshua D. Drake
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Re: leaky views, yet again
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leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again bricklen <bricklen@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 12:27 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas  writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Tom Lane  wrote:
> >> Personally I think this is a dead end that we shouldn't be wasting
> >> any more time on.
> 
> > But you haven't proposed a reasonable alternative.
> 
> Tom: "This problem is insoluble."
> Robert: "You can't claim that without offering a solution."
> 
> Sorry ...
> 
> > Option #1: Remove all mention from the documentation of using views
> > for security purposes.  Don't allow views to have explicit permissions
> > attached to them; they are merely shorthand for a SELECT, for which
> > you either do or do not have privileges.
> 
> The SQL standard requires us to attach permissions to views.  The
> standard makes no claims whatsoever about how leak-proof views should
> be; it only says that you can't call a view without the appropriate
> permissions.
> 
> I do think it's reasonable for the docs to point out that views that do
> row-filtering should not be presumed to be absolutely bulletproof.
> That doesn't make permissions on them useless, so you're attacking a
> straw man.

+1

JD

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