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Hannu Krosing
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Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types
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RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types James Pye <lists@jwp.name>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types James Pye <lists@jwp.name>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Sam Mason <sam@samason.me.uk>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 22:15 +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> 2009/9/10 Hannu Krosing :
> > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 21:35 +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> >> 2009/9/10 Tom Lane :
> >> > Pavel Stehule  writes:
> >> >> I don't afraid about crashing. Simply I have not idea what sql
> >> >> sprintf's behave in case:
> >> >
> >> >> SELECT sprintf('some %s', 10)
> >> >
> >> > That one I don't think is hard --- coerce the input type to text and
> >> > print the string.
> >> >
> >> >> SELECT sprintf('some %d', 10::mycustomtype)
> >> >
> >> > For the formats that presume an integer or float input in C, perhaps
> >> > we could coerce to numeric (failing if that fails) and then print
> >> > appropriately.  Or maybe int or float8 would be more appropriate
> >> > conversion targets.
> >>
> >> it's possible - so format tags doesn't mean data type, but it means
> >> "try to drow it as type" - etc invisible explicit casting.
> >
> >
> > what is the difference between these two ?
> 
> first is coming from C and has C semantic - there is only one possible
> tag (without binary compatible types) - you cannot use %s for numbers,
> and %d for strings is some specific value.

Similar functionality in python allows %s for any type (it will just get
string representation of the value), but not vice-versa:

>>> '%s' % 10
'10'
>>> '%d' % 10
'10'
>>> '%d' % '10'
Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in 
TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not str

More restrictive than Tom's proposal. 

> sprintf("%d", "10") - show address of static string "10"
> 
> second is Tom's proposal. More dynamic. Tag specify target type.
> 
> so sprintf('%d', '10') show 10 with possible width manipulation operations

this would be interesting for cases like

sprintf('%.2f', '3.1415927')

but I'd frefer here python-like sematics, where you need to make
explicit casts, i.e.

sprintf('%.2f', '3.1415927'::float)


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