On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 21:27 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 15:37 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > > Just keep re-asking until you hear no objections. That will make it
> > > > fair. Make it seem as if there is the only one person with an objection,
> > > > when others have already agreed.
> > >
> > > Dude, other people objected on specific counts. That is, there were
> > > specific things they objected to, rather than the whole idea. Then,
> > > just like code, we do a "here it is with that specific thing fixed. Is
> > > it OK now?"
> > >
> > > I've got that *you* don't like the whole idea. I don't have that
> > > definitely from *anyone* else (except maybe Gavin, and I'm still not
> > > clear on what his response means), and quite a few people said they
> > > liked the idea -- in fact, the majority who have spoken up on this list.
> >
> > >From your response, I think you'll just keep trying to isolate my
> > opinion until it seems frantic and somehow strange. Calling me dude, or
> > asking me to chill, is a well-known gambit to make my views seem
> > emotional, rather than rational. What's the rush? Why so quick to
> > silence me?
>
> The fact I could have predicted this reaction from Simon says something
> too.
My stance on such marketing issues is well known. Many volunteer/charity
organisations manage to operate without heavy marketing-related branding
and I think it is a shame we cannot have reasonable restrictions on that
also. e.g. Oxfam, Boy Scouts, Churches. These restrictions are normal
and natural in all of the community organisations with which I have been
associated, admittedly all of which are UK based. I see it as a sensible
separation that allows people to work together more easily, not as part
of a moral crusade, which I personally would not claim to lead.
I'm sure many actions and reactions are predictable for both of us. I
don't have a problem with being consistent in my views and values, or
speaking out in favour or defence of them.
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Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com
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