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Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of
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join of array Pavel Stehule <stehule@kix.fsv.cvut.cz>
Re: join of array Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of array) Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of array) elein <elein@varlena.com>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of elein <elein@varlena.com>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of array) "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com>
Re: Arrays and "goodness" in RDBMSs (was Re: join of array) "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
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Re: join of array Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de>
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Re: summary and request - correction Jason Godden <jasongodden@optushome.com.au>
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:36, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2003 02:56 pm, elein wrote:
> > In response to both Andrew Gould and Ron Johnson...
> >
> > If arrays are not natural in the organization of
> > your data, don't use them. That is the guideline.
> >
> > If the array defines something specific they are
> > very natural.  The confusion could be that arrays
> > are abstract types.
> >
> > Specific implementations which use arrays might
> > be clearer.  For example, a definition of a polygon
> > is an array of Points.  Points, themselves are an
> > array.
> >
> > (The actual postgreSQL implementation of polygons and points
> > doesn't use the newer cleaner array abstraction, I think.
> > But if I were reimplementing them, I would build on
> > top of the new array capabilities.  The point is to show
> > an array structured object which makes sense in context.)
> >
> > Of course you can denomalize via arrays, but it tends
> > to make things harder for you.  And I believe the
> > same thing is true for denormalized integer columns.
> >
> > elein
> > =============================================================
> > elein@varlena.com                             www.varlena.com
> 
> Thanks, Elein.  The polygon example makes it clearer.  In the books I have 
> here, the examples show how to use arrays but they use data that I would move 
> to another table.

This is what makes me nervous about db arrays: the tendency for
denormalization.

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