Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age?
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Daniel Gustafsson
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Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age?
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0DAF1BDA-EF76-44A2-8BD1-469D7590B2F9@yesql.se
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Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? (Andres Freund)
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Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
RE: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Phil Florent <philflorent@hotmail.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
> On 24 Mar 2023, at 21:27, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2023-03-23 10:18:35 +0100, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 18:00, Andres Freund wrote: >> >>> It wasn't actually that much work to write a patch to remove >>> vacuum_defer_cleanup_age, see the attached. >> >> - and provide protection against >> + provides protection against >> relevant rows being removed by vacuum, but the former provides no >> protection during any time period when the standby is not connected, >> and the latter often needs to be set to a high value to provide adequate >> >> Isn't "the latter" in the kept part of the sentence referring to the guc we're >> removing here? > > You're right. That paragraph generally seems a bit off. In HEAD: > > ... > > Replication slots alone don't prevent row removal, that requires > hot_standby_feedback to be used as well. > > A minimal rephrasing would be: > > Similarly, on its own, without > also using a replication slot, provides protection against relevant rows > being removed by vacuum, but provides no protection during any time period > when the standby is not connected. Replication slots overcome these > disadvantages. > +1, that's definitely an improvement. -- Daniel Gustafsson
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