RE: Threat models for DB cryptography (Re: [Proposal] Table-levelTransparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key) Management Service (KMS)

From: Nico Williams [mailto:nico@cryptonector.com]
> Let's start with a set of threat models then.  I'll go first:

Thank you so much for summarizing the current situation.  I'd appreciate it if you could write this on the PostgreSQL
wiki,when the discussion has settled somehow.
 


>  - local adversaries (addressed by standard OS user process isolation)

Does this also mean that we don't have to worry about the following?

* unencrypted data in the server process memory and core files
* passwords in .pgpass and recovery.conf (someone familiar with PCI DSS audit said this is a problem)
* user data in server logs


> One shortcoming of relying on OS functionality for protection against
> malicious storage is that not all OSes may provide such functionality.
> This could be an argument for implementing full, transparent encryption
> for an entire DB in the postgres server.  Not a very compelling
> argument, but that's just my opinion -- reasonable people could differ
> on this.

Yes, this is one reason I developed TDE in our product.  And in-database encryption allows optimization by encrypting
onlyuser data.
 


> So I think for (3) the best answer is to just not have that problem:
> just reduce and audit admin access.
> 
> Still, if anyone wants to cover (3), I argue that PG gives you
> everything you need right now: FDW and pgcrypto.  Just build a
> solution where you have a PG server proxy that acts as a smart
> client to untrusted servers:

Does sepgsql help?


Should a malfunctioning or buggy application be considered as as a threat?  That's what sql_firewall extension
addresses.

Regards
Takayuki Tsunakawa