RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation

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Tsunakawa, Takayuki
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RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation
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reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Jamison, Kirk" <k.jamison@jp.fujitsu.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Jamison, Kirk" <k.jamison@jp.fujitsu.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
RE: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages atthe end of relation David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
RE: Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages atthe end of relation "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages atthe end of relation Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Pavan Deolasee <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at theend of relation Pavan Deolasee <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
From: Fujii Masao [mailto:masao.fujii@gmail.com]
> a very long time before accessing to the relation. Which would cause the
> response-time spikes, for example, I observed such spikes several times
> on
> the server with shared_buffers = 300GB while running the benchmark.

FYI, a long transaction took about 900 ms, while the average transaction response time was 150 ms or so.  (I'm working with Fujii-san in this performance benchmark.)


> Therefore, I'm thinking to propose $SUBJECT and enable it to avoid such
> spikes
> for that relation.

How about an integer variable to replace the following?

#define REL_TRUNCATE_FRACTION	16


> Also, first of all, if other transactions need to extend the relation
> (i.e., need new pages) as soon as VACUUM truncates the empty pages at the
> end,
> that truncation would not be so helpful for performance. In this case,
> the truncation and extension of the relation are unnecessarily repeated,
> which would decrease the performance. So, to alleviate this situation,
> $SUBJECT is useful, I think.

I wonder if fillfactor=50 would alleviate this situation.

Regards
Takayuki Tsunakawa

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