Re: The two steps to being under the Sun...

Correct.  The hard fact of it, folks, is that a successful PostgreSQL is bad news for the following industry leaders:

Oracle (directly)
IBM (directly)
Microsoft (directly)
Sun (indirectly, due to partnership with Oracle)
Red Hat (indirectly, due to partnerships with Oracle, IBM)

The best possible high-visibility partners for PostgreSQL for large application vendors who wish to reduce their
dependencyon (often competing) database vendors: 

Siebel (the best candidate, IMHO)
SAP (already co-opted by MySQL)
Peoplesoft (has a new DB2 relationship)
etc.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Browne" <cbbrowne@libertyrms.info>
To: <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] The two steps to being under the Sun...


> josh@agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus) writes:
> > Sun does not want to deal with any "real" open source projects.
> > MySQL AB, which is a commercial company dabbling in open source,
> > suits Sun's corprorate "personality" a lot better than we ever
> > would.  We won the technical evaluation and lost the corporate
> > politics.
>
> Furthermore, MySQL isn't likely to seriously challenge any
> relationships with their commercial 'partners.'
>
> If the "open source" database that they push is considered only
> suitable for toy applications, then that's _perfect_ for any
> partnering they do with vendors like Oracle.
>
> It is, as a result, perfectly natural for them to say "Well, if you
> want to do any _real_ work with databases, then you should talk to our
> partner here..."  Nobody is likely to question that this is a good
> idea.
>
> If, in contrast, they bundled something that _does_ scale better,
> there might be an awkward pause if someone asks the question "... And
> I need to upgrade to Oracle precisely why?"
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