Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...)

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Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...)
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Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Alessio Bragadini <alessio@albourne.com>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Kurt Roeckx <Q@ping.be>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Olivier PRENANT <ohp@pyrenet.fr>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Olivier PRENANT <ohp@pyrenet.fr>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) ohp@pyrenet.fr
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Kurt Roeckx <Q@ping.be>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Philip Yarra <philip@utiba.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Philip Yarra <philip@utiba.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Philip Yarra <philip@utiba.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Philip Yarra <philip@utiba.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Philip Yarra <philip@utiba.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Broken(?) 'interval' problems. [Was: ISO 8601 "Time Intervals"] "Ron Mayer" <ron@intervideo.com>
Re: Broken(?) 'interval' problems. [Was: ISO 8601 "Time Intervals"] Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>
Re: Broken(?) 'interval' problems. [Was: ISO 8601 "Time Intervals"] "Ron Mayer" <ron@intervideo.com>
Re: Broken(?) 'interval' problems. [Was: ISO 8601 "Time Intervals"] Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>
Re: Broken(?) 'interval' problems. [Was: ISO 8601 "Time Intervals"] "Ron Mayer" <ron@intervideo.com>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) ohp@pyrenet.fr
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Lee Kindness <lkindness@csl.co.uk>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Unixware Patch (Was: Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ...) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Re: Beta2 Tag'd and Bundled ... Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
"Tom Lane"  writes:
> Lee Kindness  writes:
> > Guys, too much thought is being spent on this...
> > 1. For the _r functions we "need" we should ALWAYS use them if the
> > system we are building on has them - they WILL be thread-safe.
>
> > 2. If the system is missing a _r function then we implement a wrapper
> > to call the normal non-_r version. However we do NOT make this wrapper
> > call thread-safe - we assume the non-_r version already is.
>
> That assumption is exactly what Peter is unhappy about.  With the above
> approach we will happily build a "thread safe" library on systems that
> are in fact not thread safe at all.  Peter wants --enable-thread-safety
> to fail on non-safe systems.

Yeah, I see that as Peter's main objection too. But it really isn't worth
the
trouble, on such systems a user's app will be so horribly broken WRT
threads anyway. It isn't our job to point out the shortcomings of their
system.

Really such systems don't exist - if libc doesn't have _r calls and the
traditional ones are not thread-safe then do you think it'll have a
threading
library which can run >1 thread concurrently?

On such a system the users troubles will start long before PostgreSQL
if they play with threads.

L.


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