Re: EOL for 7.4?
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Simon Riggs
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Re: EOL for 7.4?
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1257268396.13207.5021.camel@ebony
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Re: EOL for 7.4? (Dave Page)
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EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Steve Crawford <scrawford@pinpointresearch.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <adsmail@wars-nicht.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <adsmail@wars-nicht.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Scrappy <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Bernd Helmle <mailings@oopsware.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Steve Crawford <scrawford@pinpointresearch.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 16:37 +0000, Dave Page wrote: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Simon Riggs wrote: > > > Unless there are unfixable data loss bugs in it, I say we keep it. > > > > Many people still run it, so why make them move? > > There are non-trivial amounts of effort required to produce and test > packages for each branch we maintain. That affects all of the > packagers to varying degrees and should not be overlooked. This presumes a single group of packagers that does all releases. We'd be the only project that does that, AFAICS. Seems strange to limit tasks to just the same few people all the time. We could ask for volunteer maintainers for releases, rather than just say "the X people that do all the work no longer wish to do it and so we're not going to let anyone else either". No volunteers, no releases. That is exactly how this current project got started in the first place - picking up the maintenance responsibility on code that the original authors no longer wished to maintain. As in all things, any major changes with respect to packages should be discussed publicly, with notice given of any changes. Anybody that feels it is worth supporting could then come forward to do so. I hope we can avoid a sarcastic "over to you then Simon" reply. I'm not volunteering for it, but we should give others the opportunity to do so. My belief is there is a substantial user community for 7.4, and for 7.3 also. There is no reason why we should act like a commercial company when we're a volunteer organisation. So suggestion: announce that 7.4 will be EOLd in 6 months unless volunteers come forward to support further releases. At the same time, announce what the EOL plans are for other releases, so people can begin planning upgrades. In most stable production systems the planning cycle can extend to years, rather than weeks or months. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com
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