Обсуждение: Re: Doc: shared_memory_size_in_huge_pages with the "SHOW" command.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 09:31:49AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> I am not sure that neither mentioning nor recommending SHOW for this
> area is a good idea, the point being to encourage its use before the
> server is running as we don't want to allocate anything when tuning
> it.

Agreed.

> Point taken that the current wording can be confusing because of the
> "*must* be shut down".  How about doing a simpler s/must/should/ for a
> softer wording?

Well, the point is that you can't use "postgres -C" to view this GUC while
the server is running.  I can see how the present wording might be
misinterpreted, though.  Perhaps we should change this sentence to
something like:

    Note that the server must be shut down to view this runtime-computed
    parameter with the postgres command.

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nathan

On 2024/10/16 14:18, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 08:26:06PM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>> Well, the point is that you can't use "postgres -C" to view this GUC while
>> the server is running.  I can see how the present wording might be
>> misinterpreted, though.  Perhaps we should change this sentence to
>> something like:
>>
>>     Note that the server must be shut down to view this runtime-computed
>>     parameter with the postgres command.
> 
> I'm OK with the "postgres command" addition.

Another idea is to use the same wording as for num_os_semaphores in runtime.sgml, like this:

     This parameter can be viewed
     before starting the server with a <command>postgres</command> command like:

Regards,

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Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 03:31:05PM +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
> Another idea is to use the same wording as for num_os_semaphores in runtime.sgml, like this:
> 
>     This parameter can be viewed
>     before starting the server with a <command>postgres</command> command like:

WFM

-- 
nathan

On 2024/10/18 7:10, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 04:59:54PM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>> Thanks.  Here is what I have staged for commit.
> 
> Fine by me.  Thanks.

LGTM, too. Thanks!

Regards,

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Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 02:47:37PM +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
> On 2024/10/18 7:10, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> Fine by me.  Thanks.
> 
> LGTM, too. Thanks!

Committed.

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nathan