Обсуждение: Presentation tools used ?
Hello All I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you people what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how the remote control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, but never came close to using one. I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools would you suggest ? What's your setup ? Thank you! Achilleas Mantzios IT DEV - HEAD IT DEPT Dynacom Tankers Mgmt
El día domingo, octubre 22, 2023 a las 08:50:10a. m. +0300, Achilleas Mantzios escribió: > Hello All > > I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you people > what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how the remote > control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, but never came > close to using one. > > I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools would > you suggest ? What's your setup ? > You might want to have a look at "s5", see here: https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ An example presentation done with s5 is here: http://www.unixarea.de/LiHab2013/ To go through the slides just do a click in the browser. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub I am not at war with Russia. Я не воюю с Россией. Ich bin nicht im Krieg mit Russland.
Στις 22/10/23 10:06, ο/η Matthias Apitz έγραψε: > El día domingo, octubre 22, 2023 a las 08:50:10a. m. +0300, Achilleas Mantzios escribió: > >> Hello All >> >> I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you people >> what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how the remote >> control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, but never came >> close to using one. >> >> I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools would >> you suggest ? What's your setup ? >> > You might want to have a look at "s5", see here: https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ > An example presentation done with s5 is here: http://www.unixarea.de/LiHab2013/ > To go through the slides just do a click in the browser. thank you, looks nice! > > HIH > > matthias > -- Achilleas Mantzios IT DEV - HEAD IT DEPT Dynacom Tankers Mgmt
Achilleas Mantzios said on Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:50:10 +0300 >Hello All > >I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you >people what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how >the remote control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, >but never came close to using one. > >I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools >would you suggest ? What's your setup ? I use presentations in my work, both given by myself and given by trainers. I can tell you Libreoffice Impress is absolute garbage. It intermittently loses style definitions. As far as google slides, I know nothing about them except I don't trust Google. Also, I'm not fan of Software as a Service (SaaS) for non-big-enterprise usage. I prefer to keep it all on my hard disk. That's where my PostgreSQL software resides. Beamer (a LaTeX package) is the Cadillac of the industry, but only if you're willing to put in the work. I've done presentations in VimOutliner, but it's not "pretty" and so is only appropriate for certain audiences. I created Free Software called HTMLSlides, but it's not easy to use. I don't recommend it. If you don't want to use Beamer, my advice would be to research tools that convert Markdown to slides. Markdown is lightning quick to author in, very much unlike Beamer. Two other suggestions: 1) Please have mercy on your audience members with poor vision, and use black type on white background. Yeah, it's not "pretty" and it's not "hip", but you won't lose people who can't read purple on blue. Likewise, use large fonts so everyone can read. If you need small fonts to reveal all your info, you need to split the slide in two. 2) Don't read from your slides. If it's necessary to read the slide, what I do is tell the audience to read the slide, and then after they've read it I ask for questions and give them answers. But typically, my slides are an overview, and my verbal presentation is a dialog between myself and the audience. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
To add to what Steve has said, see if you can find a room with equipment similar to what you'll be using for the actual presentation to practice in. Put up your most complex slide, then take a seat in the back of the room and imagine what it'll look like with a room full of people in front of you. On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 8:36 PM Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > Achilleas Mantzios said on Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:50:10 +0300 > > >Hello All > > > >I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you > >people what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how > >the remote control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, > >but never came close to using one. > > > >I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools > >would you suggest ? What's your setup ? > > I use presentations in my work, both given by myself and given by > trainers. I can tell you Libreoffice Impress is absolute garbage. It > intermittently loses style definitions. As far as google slides, I know > nothing about them except I don't trust Google. Also, I'm not fan of > Software as a Service (SaaS) for non-big-enterprise usage. I prefer to > keep it all on my hard disk. That's where my PostgreSQL software > resides. > > Beamer (a LaTeX package) is the Cadillac of the industry, but only if > you're willing to put in the work. I've done presentations in > VimOutliner, but it's not "pretty" and so is only appropriate for > certain audiences. I created Free Software called HTMLSlides, but it's > not easy to use. I don't recommend it. > > If you don't want to use Beamer, my advice would be to research tools > that convert Markdown to slides. Markdown is lightning quick to author > in, very much unlike Beamer. > > Two other suggestions: > > 1) Please have mercy on your audience members with poor vision, and use > black type on white background. Yeah, it's not "pretty" and it's not > "hip", but you won't lose people who can't read purple on blue. > Likewise, use large fonts so everyone can read. If you need small > fonts to reveal all your info, you need to split the slide in two. > > 2) Don't read from your slides. If it's necessary to read the slide, > what I do is tell the audience to read the slide, and then after > they've read it I ask for questions and give them answers. But > typically, my slides are an overview, and my verbal presentation is > a dialog between myself and the audience. > > HTH, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > > Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century > http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 > >
Sorry for the top posting, I forget that Gmail does that by default. Mike Nolan
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 22:57 Achilleas Mantzios <a.mantzios@cloud.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
What tools
would you suggest ? What's your setup ?
I've used reveal.js before and I was pretty happy with it: https://revealjs.com/
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 8:30 AM Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
Achilleas Mantzios said on Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:50:10 +0300
>Hello All
>
>I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you
>people what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how
>the remote control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it,
>but never came close to using one.
>
>I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools
>would you suggest ? What's your setup ?
I use presentations in my work, both given by myself and given by
trainers. I can tell you Libreoffice Impress is absolute garbage. It
intermittently loses style definitions. As far as google slides, I know
nothing about them except I don't trust Google. Also, I'm not fan of
Software as a Service (SaaS) for non-big-enterprise usage. I prefer to
keep it all on my hard disk. That's where my PostgreSQL software
resides.
One big problem on most of these also is that you have presentation and content tied together. So retheming a presentation is difficult or impossible.
This is one area where Beamer (which I see you mentioned) really shines. I can change my presentations if someone wants them themed differently separate from my content.
Beamer (a LaTeX package) is the Cadillac of the industry, but only if
you're willing to put in the work. I've done presentations in
VimOutliner, but it's not "pretty" and so is only appropriate for
certain audiences. I created Free Software called HTMLSlides, but it's
not easy to use. I don't recommend it.
Also I have noticed a lot of folks in the community (myself included) use Beamer mostly.
I love it. It makes my life a LOT easier.
If you don't want to use Beamer, my advice would be to research tools
that convert Markdown to slides. Markdown is lightning quick to author
in, very much unlike Beamer.
Two other suggestions:
1) Please have mercy on your audience members with poor vision, and use
black type on white background. Yeah, it's not "pretty" and it's not
"hip", but you won't lose people who can't read purple on blue.
Likewise, use large fonts so everyone can read. If you need small
fonts to reveal all your info, you need to split the slide in two.
+1
I do sometimes make an exception for this when something is sponsored and the sponsoring company requests it.
I do sometimes make an exception for this when something is sponsored and the sponsoring company requests it.
2) Don't read from your slides. If it's necessary to read the slide,
what I do is tell the audience to read the slide, and then after
they've read it I ask for questions and give them answers. But
typically, my slides are an overview, and my verbal presentation is
a dialog between myself and the audience.
Slides should be a mnemonic device for you as a speaker and for the audience later, not a source of direct information except when you need a visual exploration and then the images are helpful.
HTH,
SteveT
Steve Litt
Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
Best Wishes,
Chris Travers
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 03:34, Chris Travers <chris.travers@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 8:30 AM Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote: >> >> Achilleas Mantzios said on Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:50:10 +0300 >> >> >Hello All >> > >> >I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you >> >people what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how >> >the remote control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, >> >but never came close to using one. >> > >> >I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools >> >would you suggest ? What's your setup ? I would say for a first presentation I would suggest just using Google Slides. It has some severe limitations no question and you'll probably graduate to something more powerful for subsequent presentations but you'll understand why you need the more complex features instead of starting with something complicated and not knowing whether it's really helping you. The main disadvantage of Slides is that as a WYSIWYG style editor you're designing each slide individually. If you later decide you want to use a smaller font or slide the main body up a bit or whatever you have to go back through all your slides making that change. It also doesn't do things like code highlighting and can't really handle anything but the simplest diagrams. So you'll end up with a lot of inlined images and then if you want to tweak anything in them you have to regenerate the images and replace them one by one. But for a first go it's definitely the lowest bar to entry and one kind of helpful side effect I find is it forces me to keep the slides simple. It's great for quickly putting together simple presentations. (One the other hand it tends to encourage the "every slide is a long bullet list" style of presentation which is not so great) One nice benefit of using a cloud based SAAS solution like Slides is you can share the slide deck and present it from anyone's computer without transferring files or finding a program to display it. > Also I have noticed a lot of folks in the community (myself included) use Beamer mostly. > > I love it. It makes my life a LOT easier. I use it too and love the end result I was able to get it to do. But I didn't really love the amount of effort it took to get that result. The awesome thing is that having done that I could keep editing the diagrams and code snippets for subsequent presentations and then just run make to regenerate the slides. But each time I did that I had to relearn TeX and TikZ.... -- greg
Thank you All people!
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:50:10AM +0300, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> Hello All
>
> I am going to give a talk about PostgerSQL, so I'd like to ask you people
> what do you use for your presentations, also I have no idea how the remote
> control works to navigate through slides. I have seen it, but never came
> close to using one.
>
> I have access to google slides and libreoffice Impress. What tools would
> you suggest ? What's your setup ?
You might want to watch this video I created, and maybe the bonus one too:
https://momjian.us/main/presentations/general.html#presenting
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Only you can decide what is important to you.
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 09:46 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
You might want to watch this video I created, and maybe the bonus one too:
https://momjian.us/main/presentations/general.html#presenting
Excellent! Thanks.
-Tom
Greg Stark said on Mon, 23 Oct 2023 04:05:28 -0400
>The main disadvantage of Slides is that as a WYSIWYG style editor
>you're designing each slide individually. If you later decide you want
>to use a smaller font or slide the main body up a bit or whatever you
>have to go back through all your slides making that change. It also
>doesn't do things like code highlighting and can't really handle
>anything but the simplest diagrams. So you'll end up with a lot of
>inlined images and then if you want to tweak anything in them you have
>to regenerate the images and replace them one by one.
If the preceding is acceptable, then I withdraw my comment about
LibreOffice being terrible. If you're willing to go without styles [1],
LibreOffice is easy as pie.
And since this isn't a pure Linux/BSD mailing list, let me add that MS
Powerpoint is not only easy as pie, but last time I used it (10 years
ago) it respected and preserved styles.
[1] LibreOffice has styles, but it frequently and arbitrarily loses
style definitions.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21