Обсуждение: A new mailing list for PG Day France ?
Hi everyone ! ( I'm not sure this is the right place for this request, if not feel free to redirect me to the appropriate channel ) The PG Day France is the main French-Speaking PostgreSQL event since 2008. The conference is organized by volunteers using a mailing list hosted on the postgresql.fr plateform with a mailman2 instance ( https://listes.postgresql.fr ). This mailman service is now very old and we (the PGFR web administrators) are thinking about shutting down it progressively. My question here is : Do you think that the PG Day France mailing list could be hosted on lists.postgresql.org ? Here's further details : * PG Day France is a non-profit community event supported by the PostgreSQLFr association * The main language would be French * The current mailing list is open to anyone * The current mailing list archive is public * The trafic is approx. 300 messages / year, mostly from december to june * We currently have 50 subscribers I guess the name of the list would be pgdayfr@lists.postgresql.org or pgfr-pgdayfr@lists.postgresql.org Thanks for your time, -- Damien Clochard President of the PostgreSQLFr association Member of PG Day France, and the PGFR web admin team
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 04:08:08PM +0100, Damien Clochard wrote: > Hi everyone ! > > ( I'm not sure this is the right place for this request, if not feel free to > redirect me to the appropriate channel ) > > The PG Day France is the main French-Speaking PostgreSQL event since 2008. > The conference is organized by volunteers using a mailing list hosted on > the postgresql.fr plateform with a mailman2 instance ( > https://listes.postgresql.fr ). This mailman service is now very old and we > (the PGFR web administrators) are thinking about shutting down it > progressively. > > My question here is : Do you think that the PG Day France mailing list could > be hosted on lists.postgresql.org ? I don't think it makes sense to be creating community mailing lists for this purpose since there is so much overhead to their creation. I think you are better using an email service. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 18:25 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 04:08:08PM +0100, Damien Clochard wrote:
> Hi everyone !
>
> ( I'm not sure this is the right place for this request, if not feel free to
> redirect me to the appropriate channel )
>
> The PG Day France is the main French-Speaking PostgreSQL event since 2008.
> The conference is organized by volunteers using a mailing list hosted on
> the postgresql.fr plateform with a mailman2 instance (
> https://listes.postgresql.fr ). This mailman service is now very old and we
> (the PGFR web administrators) are thinking about shutting down it
> progressively.
>
> My question here is : Do you think that the PG Day France mailing list could
> be hosted on lists.postgresql.org ?
I don't think it makes sense to be creating community mailing lists for
this purpose since there is so much overhead to their creation. I think
you are better using an email service.
I like you I don't see any particular proven with doing that - the overhead of creating a new list is very small in the list system.
However, right now that would be a problem with the archives. Our pglister system fully supports multi domains so we would preferably set up something like @lists.postgresql.fr there (because I assume you'd be interested in any other lists that are hosted there as well?) . But our archives don't support this, and would generate collissions. So unless you'd want to run your own archives separately from the main ones, that functionality would have to be added first (which is on the list of things we want already, but hasn't been done yet)
/Magnus
Le 20.11.2021 10:21, Magnus Hagander a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 18:25 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 04:08:08PM +0100, Damien Clochard wrote: >>> Hi everyone ! >>> >>> ( I'm not sure this is the right place for this request, if not >> feel free to >>> redirect me to the appropriate channel ) >>> >>> The PG Day France is the main French-Speaking PostgreSQL event >> since 2008. >>> The conference is organized by volunteers using a mailing list >> hosted on >>> the postgresql.fr [1] plateform with a mailman2 instance ( >>> https://listes.postgresql.fr ). This mailman service is now very >> old and we >>> (the PGFR web administrators) are thinking about shutting down it >>> progressively. >>> >>> My question here is : Do you think that the PG Day France mailing >> list could >>> be hosted on lists.postgresql.org [2] ? >> >> I don't think it makes sense to be creating community mailing lists >> for >> this purpose since there is so much overhead to their creation. I >> think >> you are better using an email service. > > I like you I don't see any particular proven with doing that - the > overhead of creating a new list is very small in the list system. > > However, right now that would be a problem with the archives. Our > pglister system fully supports multi domains so we would preferably > set up something like @lists.postgresql.fr [3] there (because I assume > you'd be interested in any other lists that are hosted there as well?) > . But our archives don't support this, and would generate collissions. > So unless you'd want to run your own archives separately from the main > ones, that functionality would have to be added first (which is on the > list of things we want already, but hasn't been done yet) > Bruce, Magnus, Thanks for your answers. To be clear, we're not asking for multi-domain support and we are not in capacity of hosting our own pglister instance. However we are ok with changing the address of the PG Day France mailing list and using the postgresql.org domain. Something like pgdayfr@postgresql.org or pgfr-pgdayfr@postgresql.org would be fine. We are currently hosting a dozen of mailing lists ( with 5 being really active ) but most of them won't be candidate to be hosted on postgresql.org for various reasons. Right now the PG Day France mailing is the only one we want to migrate. We may ask for a second one later (maybe the PGFR association members list...) but that's about it, we're not going to flood the pglister system with french lists ;-) That being said, we're also consedering other options, especially migrating to a well-known French open-source mailinglist provider called framalistes.org. We thought of asking here first because it would be nice to host the PG Day France list here, but if that's not possible, that's not a problem at all ! Thanks the time you dedicate to the pg.org infa ! -- Damien Clochard