Обсуждение: Downloads page

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via the
> HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a modification to
> the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server Bundles" slot
> with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the patch
> attached for your review.

If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
interesting because they contained a whole application/development
stack for users to play with. This feels like a way to get something
that should be in the Software Catalog and/or listed on the wiki with
the other FDWs into a far more prominent place than it normally would
be.

-- 
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via the
> HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a modification to
> the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server Bundles" slot
> with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the patch
> attached for your review.

If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
interesting because they contained a whole application/development
stack for users to play with.

   I see.  These are actually developer bundles more than anything.  It's really the same idea as the application server bundles, it's really about integrating all of the components into an unzip-able stack and a shell script with a 'Go' button.  The HadoopFDW is a new component, and I hear you there, it's really part of the integrated stack that gives you the ability to sandbox Postgres + Hadoop quickly with no fuss.

 

This feels like a way to get something
that should be in the Software Catalog and/or listed on the wiki with
the other FDWs into a far more prominent place than it normally would
be.

--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 06:59, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> >    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via
>>> > the
>>> > HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a modification
>>> > to
>>> > the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server Bundles"
>>> > slot
>>> > with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the
>>> > patch
>>> > attached for your review.
>>>
>>> If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
>>> interesting because they contained a whole application/development
>>> stack for users to play with.
>>
>>
>>    I see.  These are actually developer bundles more than anything.  It's
>> really the same idea as the application server bundles, it's really about
>> integrating all of the components into an unzip-able stack and a shell
>> script with a 'Go' button.  The HadoopFDW is a new component, and I hear you
>> there, it's really part of the integrated stack that gives you the ability
>> to sandbox Postgres + Hadoop quickly with no fuss.
>>
>>
>> Surely for most users (especially existing ones) the most convenient
>> option would be a simple extension installation onto their distro of choice?
>
>
> You don't really see this type of integrated dev stack with the 11 or so
> components  pre-configured and ready-to-run right out of the box.  The
> purpose here is to really give an unzip and go feel that gives you all of
> the components.

From both your emails and the patch you gave, it appears that there is
only one component bundled - the HadoopFDW.

Please update your patch to note the other bundled components (and if
it's not obvious, what they do). Please keep it brief though.

>    Aside from that, this BigSQL stacks provide consistency through to the
> Mac as well.

OK. I'm not sure that makes any difference as to whether or not it
should be listed on the main download page (though it is a good thing
of course).

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 06:59, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> >    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via
>>> > the
>>> > HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a modification
>>> > to
>>> > the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server Bundles"
>>> > slot
>>> > with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the
>>> > patch
>>> > attached for your review.
>>>
>>> If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
>>> interesting because they contained a whole application/development
>>> stack for users to play with.
>>
>>
>>    I see.  These are actually developer bundles more than anything.  It's
>> really the same idea as the application server bundles, it's really about
>> integrating all of the components into an unzip-able stack and a shell
>> script with a 'Go' button.  The HadoopFDW is a new component, and I hear you
>> there, it's really part of the integrated stack that gives you the ability
>> to sandbox Postgres + Hadoop quickly with no fuss.
>>
>>
>> Surely for most users (especially existing ones) the most convenient
>> option would be a simple extension installation onto their distro of choice?
>
>
> You don't really see this type of integrated dev stack with the 11 or so
> components  pre-configured and ready-to-run right out of the box.  The
> purpose here is to really give an unzip and go feel that gives you all of
> the components.

From both your emails and the patch you gave, it appears that there is
only one component bundled - the HadoopFDW.

Okay, I'll update the patch accordingly.

 

Please update your patch to note the other bundled components (and if
it's not obvious, what they do). Please keep it brief though.

>    Aside from that, this BigSQL stacks provide consistency through to the
> Mac as well.

OK. I'm not sure that makes any difference as to whether or not it
should be listed on the main download page (though it is a good thing
of course).

--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

-- 
--
Scott Mead
Sr. Architect
OpenSCG, inc

scottm@openscg.com
C: +1 607 765 1395

Thanks - that looks better to me. Anyone else have any comments?

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/15/13 10:13 AM, Scott Mead wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Nov 2013, at 06:59, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hello all,
>> >>> >
>> >>> >    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a
>> >>> > modification
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server
>> >>> > Bundles"
>> >>> > slot
>> >>> > with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the
>> >>> > patch
>> >>> > attached for your review.
>> >>>
>> >>> If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
>> >>> interesting because they contained a whole application/development
>> >>> stack for users to play with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    I see.  These are actually developer bundles more than anything.
>> >> It's
>> >> really the same idea as the application server bundles, it's really
>> >> about
>> >> integrating all of the components into an unzip-able stack and a shell
>> >> script with a 'Go' button.  The HadoopFDW is a new component, and I
>> >> hear you
>> >> there, it's really part of the integrated stack that gives you the
>> >> ability
>> >> to sandbox Postgres + Hadoop quickly with no fuss.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Surely for most users (especially existing ones) the most convenient
>> >> option would be a simple extension installation onto their distro of
>> >> choice?
>> >
>> >
>> > You don't really see this type of integrated dev stack with the 11 or so
>> > components  pre-configured and ready-to-run right out of the box.  The
>> > purpose here is to really give an unzip and go feel that gives you all
>> > of
>> > the components.
>>
>> From both your emails and the patch you gave, it appears that there is
>> only one component bundled - the HadoopFDW.
>
>
> Okay, I'll update the patch accordingly.
>
>
> Please see the attached update.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Please update your patch to note the other bundled components (and if
>> it's not obvious, what they do). Please keep it brief though.
>>
>> >    Aside from that, this BigSQL stacks provide consistency through to
>> > the
>> > Mac as well.
>>
>> OK. I'm not sure that makes any difference as to whether or not it
>> should be listed on the main download page (though it is a good thing
>> of course).
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Scott Mead
> Sr. Architect
> OpenSCG, inc
>
> scottm@openscg.com
> C: +1 607 765 1395



-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:02:55PM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> Thanks - that looks better to me. Anyone else have any comments?

So there is no Java mention anymore?  Seems fine to me, though starting
with the word BigSQL feels kind of abrupt.

--  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
http://enterprisedb.com
 + Everyone has their own god. +

Thanks, committed. It should show up on the website within a few hours.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/15/13 10:13 AM, Scott Mead wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Nov 2013, at 06:59, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hello all,
>> >>> >
>> >>> >    BigSQL ( www.bigsql.org) provides hadoop access from Postgres via
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > HadoopFDW ( www.hadoopfdw.org).  I would like to propose a
>> >>> > modification
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > the /downloads page that replaces our "Java PostgreSQL Server
>> >>> > Bundles"
>> >>> > slot
>> >>> > with a "PostgreSQL and Hadoop Integration" section.  Please find the
>> >>> > patch
>> >>> > attached for your review.
>> >>>
>> >>> If I'm honest, I'm not overly keen on this. The Java bundles were
>> >>> interesting because they contained a whole application/development
>> >>> stack for users to play with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    I see.  These are actually developer bundles more than anything.
>> >> It's
>> >> really the same idea as the application server bundles, it's really
>> >> about
>> >> integrating all of the components into an unzip-able stack and a shell
>> >> script with a 'Go' button.  The HadoopFDW is a new component, and I
>> >> hear you
>> >> there, it's really part of the integrated stack that gives you the
>> >> ability
>> >> to sandbox Postgres + Hadoop quickly with no fuss.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Surely for most users (especially existing ones) the most convenient
>> >> option would be a simple extension installation onto their distro of
>> >> choice?
>> >
>> >
>> > You don't really see this type of integrated dev stack with the 11 or so
>> > components  pre-configured and ready-to-run right out of the box.  The
>> > purpose here is to really give an unzip and go feel that gives you all
>> > of
>> > the components.
>>
>> From both your emails and the patch you gave, it appears that there is
>> only one component bundled - the HadoopFDW.
>
>
> Okay, I'll update the patch accordingly.
>
>
> Please see the attached update.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Please update your patch to note the other bundled components (and if
>> it's not obvious, what they do). Please keep it brief though.
>>
>> >    Aside from that, this BigSQL stacks provide consistency through to
>> > the
>> > Mac as well.
>>
>> OK. I'm not sure that makes any difference as to whether or not it
>> should be listed on the main download page (though it is a good thing
>> of course).
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Scott Mead
> Sr. Architect
> OpenSCG, inc
>
> scottm@openscg.com
> C: +1 607 765 1395



-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company