Обсуждение: Kicking people off planetpostgresql.org?
Devrim, I've gotten a report that several people were arbitrarily kicked off planetpostgresql.org. Surely if people's RSS feeds are going to be cancelled, we'd discuss it on this list? -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:54:07 -0800 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Devrim, > > I've gotten a report that several people were arbitrarily kicked off > planetpostgresql.org. Surely if people's RSS feeds are going to be > cancelled, we'd discuss it on this list? > Sigh, this is not exactly the best way to start a thread. You know better Josh. Not one single person was kicked off Planet. The policy for using headlines was enforced and Devrim removed the long posts with notification and request that they recontact him once they fix the blogs. I strongly suggest to gather evidence before you start suggesting that a major contributor is doing any such thing. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | PostgreSQL political pundit | Mocker of Dolphins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH0bwtATb/zqfZUUQRAsZvAJ9kU9bkUTAgJ9gyierw3hEeGODuqwCgk232 cJHEpISfgW3oVormXzquhPs= =n3kJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Josh, > Not one single person was kicked off Planet. The policy for using > headlines was enforced and Devrim removed the long posts with > notification and request that they recontact him once they fix the > blogs. OK, cool, thanks. I was a little surprised; it was hard to imagine Devrim taking unilateral action. That's very unlike him. Is the headline policy up anywhere? Like on the wiki, for example, so that we can point people to it? -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 13:54 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > I've gotten a report that several people were arbitrarily kicked off > planetpostgresql.org. Surely if people's RSS feeds are going to be > cancelled, we'd discuss it on this list? I did not "kick off" . I remove them temporarily, because of the rules. The rule is simple: ============== *If* your posts are very long, please break them into two parts. One that's included on planetpostgresql.org and a second that's available after clicking a link. This will keep the layout of planetpostgresql.org easy and quick for our visitors. See examples on Planet PostgreSQL. ============== I e-mailed this information to our bloggers on Jan 8. ..and I informed everyone PLUS planet list (a list hosted @postgresql.org) so that everyone would be kept up2date. That list includes at least 3 prominent community members other than me : Magnus, Robert (Treat) and Jim (Nasby). As the blogs are "fixed", I'll add them again. This is what I explicitly wrote in the e-mail that I sent to 3 people today. I hope this is clear for everyone. I'm upset that this thread took my half of the day. Also, I'm upset that you are writing this e-mail to a public list without asking me first. I'm a few clicks away from you on Jabber. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ , RHCE PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:05:33 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > > I've gotten a report that several people were arbitrarily kicked > > off planetpostgresql.org. Surely if people's RSS feeds are going > > to be cancelled, we'd discuss it on this list? > > > > Sigh, this is not exactly the best way to start a thread. You know > better Josh. Here is my response to LewisC's false accusations: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2008-03/msg00233.php I have provided complete transparency to what is happening. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | PostgreSQL political pundit | Mocker of Dolphins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH0b0oATb/zqfZUUQRAsazAJ9roX83MwBZHSBJ27LNFDVUnTwc8QCbBDi4 OrmRYpDjmVZBpUOVX5iDySs= =CBx/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Devrim, > I'm upset that this thread took my half of the day. Also, I'm upset that > you are writing this e-mail to a public list without asking me first. > I'm a few clicks away from you on Jabber. I'm sorry, I phrased it badly. What I meant was "Surely you wouldn't kick people off planetpostgresql.org arbitrarily, so what's really going on?" I realize now that the e-mail came out sounding like an accusation. Apologies. Can we put that policy up somewhere findable on postgresql.org, so that if this happens again in the future we can just point the disgruntled blogger to the policy? -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 14:09 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > Is the headline policy up anywhere? Like on the wiki, for example, so > that we can point people to it? Well, I e-mailed this policy to everyone 2 months ago. For example, sent the same e-mail to Gregory (Stark) a few hours ago, just after adding him to planet. You are right, it is not written anywhere publicly. I will give it a priority this weekend and post the link to the right hand side of Planet PostgreSQL. -HTH. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ , RHCE PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:09:49 -0800 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Josh, > > > Not one single person was kicked off Planet. The policy for using > > headlines was enforced and Devrim removed the long posts with > > notification and request that they recontact him once they fix the > > blogs. > > OK, cool, thanks. I was a little surprised; it was hard to imagine > Devrim taking unilateral action. That's very unlike him. > > Is the headline policy up anywhere? Like on the wiki, for example, > so that we can point people to it? Not that I know of, but Devrim did include it in his email to Lewis (and the others). I also mentioned to Lewis that there could probably be better advertisement of that policy. I am not sure why Lewis is in such an uproar here (see my link). Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | PostgreSQL political pundit | Mocker of Dolphins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH0b6wATb/zqfZUUQRAmN1AKCV75PNrscig4ycfqawQwC/JG0QowCfTBZL ujLCSEl8hl4bddsCroB2GBw= =tPZu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote: > You are right, it is not written anywhere publicly. I will give it a > priority this weekend and post the link to the right hand side of Planet > PostgreSQL. That's a very good idea. It'll make the life easier for those of us that field questions about it now and then (apart fromthis specific issue) //Magnus
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 13:54 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > > I've gotten a report that several people were arbitrarily kicked off > > planetpostgresql.org. Surely if people's RSS feeds are going to be > > cancelled, we'd discuss it on this list? > > I did not "kick off" . I remove them temporarily, because of the rules. > > The rule is simple: > > ============== > *If* your posts are very long, please break them into two parts. One > that's included on planetpostgresql.org and a second that's available > after clicking a link. This will keep the layout of planetpostgresql.org > easy and quick for our visitors. See examples on Planet PostgreSQL. I have a small question about this. I have a small blog that is carried by planet but hosted on blogger...AFAIK, there is no way to break up the post there. Should I be looking for a new place to blog? (I can't stand serendipity). merlin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:04:19 -0500 "Merlin Moncure" <mmoncure@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a small question about this. I have a small blog that is > carried by planet but hosted on blogger...AFAIK, there is no way to > break up the post there. Should I be looking for a new place to blog? > (I can't stand serendipity). You set your feed to short under feed settings. Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL political pundit | Mocker of Dolphins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH0rxyATb/zqfZUUQRAs8gAJ9+oVoju6G8fvI83rbR9aKF0+MB7gCgk2gy xqzzF4ggJYBuJFyK8dgLc9A= =oLmI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Merlin Moncure a écrit : > I have a small question about this. I have a small blog that is > carried by planet but hosted on blogger...AFAIK, there is no way to > break up the post there. Should I be looking for a new place to blog? > (I can't stand serendipity). I don't know planet software at all but isn't it possible to make it shorten the entries coming from external blogs to an acceptable introduction? -- Guillaume
Hi Guillaume, On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 14:32 +0100, Guillaume Smet wrote: > I don't know planet software at all http://planetplanet.org Cheers, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ , RHCE PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/
Re: Planet software (was:Re: Kicking people off planetpostgresql.org?)
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Hello, On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:54:06 -0800 Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 14:32 +0100, Guillaume Smet wrote: > > I don't know planet software at all > > http://planetplanet.org I miss planetpostgresql.org in the list of powered platforms. Bye -- Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum German PostgreSQL User Group European PostgreSQL User Group - Board of Directors
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > > I have a small question about this. I have a small blog that is > > carried by planet but hosted on blogger...AFAIK, there is no way to > > break up the post there. Should I be looking for a new place to blog? > > (I can't stand serendipity). > > You set your feed to short under feed settings. set...thanks for that. merlin
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 12:22 +0100, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: > > http://planetplanet.org > > I miss planetpostgresql.org in the list of powered platforms. I e-mailed them lots of times, but they are ignored. Well, I'm afraid they are updating website :) Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ , RHCE PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/